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That's been my approach too, but I wonder how much stress isn't captured by the performance management chart. I recently upped the weight work and made some gains, but the last two weeks have been pretty awful on the bike. I read somewhere, Friel or someone, that leg day should be simply substituted for high intensity intervals.
12-22-23, 08:55 AM
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12-22-23, 09:08 AM
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crazy I never knew that was a corkscrew I thought it was for fighting when you did not really want to kill someone but wanted them to know they were in a fight...dem damn swiss people think of everything putting a wine cork remover on a knife meant for fighting....see you city folk do think a bit differently than us rednecks..
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crazy I never knew that was a corkscrew I thought it was for fighting when you did not really want to kill someone but wanted them to know they were in a fight...dem damn swiss people think of everything putting a wine cork remover on a knife meant for fighting....see you city folk do think a bit differently than us rednecks..
12-22-23, 09:23 AM
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12-22-23, 09:47 AM
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That week I lifted Tuesday AM Squats, Deads and Lunges, then did 3x20 SS that night. Thursday was the same on weights, then 3x10' 40/20" 125% The night before was 3x10 10/20" whatever I could hold. Saturday was weight in the AM again At that time I was going heavier with 5, 3, 1 90, 95, 100% on the weights. As said, after a 3 week block, I was in my own little world and ready for the rest week.
TTE? I'm unfamiliar with that.
TTE? I'm unfamiliar with that.
Do you have a time interval between resistance and endurance training that you think spares the strength gains? Experts seem to worry about interference.
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12-22-23, 09:57 AM
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Doesn't seem very red-neck to put a slice of orange in one's beer either.
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12-22-23, 10:06 AM
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At 100% yeesh. I could not stomach that regularly. Previous bf user gsteinb would regularly post about doing 3x20's at 100% on an old school dumb trainer... pure torture. Even on a smart trainer I wouldn't do that regularly, I can't hang
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That's funny, because I distinctly remember it being one of the early "society is going to hell" shows, before South Park. When Millennials were young and Boomers were complaining.
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From the "It's Not Easy Being Velo Vol" files . . .
Recall that I had a knee aspiration/injection last week.
Already swelling in the area I had the shot has returned.
But also, I'm feeling discomfort/stiffness in the area "behind" my knee, which is quite unusual.
Has anyone ever had an issue, here? If so, what was the cause? I don't know what's going on.
Recall that I had a knee aspiration/injection last week.
Already swelling in the area I had the shot has returned.
But also, I'm feeling discomfort/stiffness in the area "behind" my knee, which is quite unusual.
Has anyone ever had an issue, here? If so, what was the cause? I don't know what's going on.
12-22-23, 10:12 AM
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12-22-23, 10:12 AM
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12-22-23, 10:17 AM
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I don't purposely train, but I do watch my zones and have come to learn the joy on doing some rides as pure Z2
12-22-23, 10:19 AM
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12-22-23, 10:24 AM
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TTE is time to exhaustion and in this case how long you can actually hold FTP. That ranges from about 40 to 75 min, if I remember right. If you can hold 20 x 3 with a 10 min break, I suspect yours is pretty good.
Do you have a time interval between resistance and endurance training that you think spares the strength gains? Experts seem to worry about interference.
Do you have a time interval between resistance and endurance training that you think spares the strength gains? Experts seem to worry about interference.
Ahh OK. When TT and Mt. Evans hill climb time came around, I got to do a solid hour. I was given some leeway, as by the time my hour was up, I was near 10K elevation. So air and power were less. Nothing made me happier that doing threshold in the times I visited folks in Washington state. I was superman. (In my eyes)
Basically, off season a fine line between both endurance and strength. If I understand the question, as the season neared, weights were nearly off the table. The super heavy was also off the table like a month before the season started.. I backed down to 2x20 body weight-ish, then 1x20 1.25-ish on squats, and 1x10 deads. Lunges, the weights were gone.
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12-22-23, 10:27 AM
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I don't get this. How other than a too high FTP, would 2 x 20' or even 3 x 20' be too high to handle as supposedly one is able to do a 1 x 60' at FTP? Tough and mentally challenging sure, but supposedly one is able to go 5% over FTP for a 1 x 20' after recovering from a full out 1 x 5'.
I don't purposely train, but I do watch my zones and have come to learn the joy on doing some rides as pure Z2
I don't purposely train, but I do watch my zones and have come to learn the joy on doing some rides as pure Z2
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TTE is time to exhaustion and in this case how long you can actually hold FTP. That ranges from about 40 to 75 min, if I remember right. If you can hold 20 x 3 with a 10 min break, I suspect yours is pretty good.
Do you have a time interval between resistance and endurance training that you think spares the strength gains? Experts seem to worry about interference.
Do you have a time interval between resistance and endurance training that you think spares the strength gains? Experts seem to worry about interference.
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I don't get this. How other than a too high FTP, would 2 x 20' or even 3 x 20' be too high to handle as supposedly one is able to do a 1 x 60' at FTP? Tough and mentally challenging sure, but supposedly one is able to go 5% over FTP for a 1 x 20' after recovering from a full out 1 x 5'.
I don't purposely train, but I do watch my zones and have come to learn the joy on doing some rides as pure Z2
I don't purposely train, but I do watch my zones and have come to learn the joy on doing some rides as pure Z2
Also, there is the whole indoor-outdoor thing. Cooling and fresh air are much bigger limiters indoors, so even a test that results in an accurate FTP for your body can result in a number that's unsustainable for an hour indoors in an other-than-perfect training room. And it was never possible for me to find a suitable venue that would allow a true 60-minute test outdoors. Even 20 minutes wasn't doable. I was able to do my FTP tests at 2x20' @ 105% of target, yes. However, the 2x20' @ 100% would leave me shredded for the rest of the week, as would the test of course. The trainer in general seemed to beat up my muscles much worse than outdoors.