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12-22-23, 01:07 PM
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12-22-23, 01:09 PM
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Got some real low grade pain on the left patella last few hamster wheel sessions. I think all the zwift hammering contributes to that a bit, more of a fixed position, and for some reason I tend to mash a lower cadence. I seem to deal with knee issues that set me back a bit every few years.
But this is real early stage, thinking I can knock it out with the usual combo of RICE, kinesio KT tape, stretching, foam rolling and ibuprofen. We'll see. The KT tape is real miraculous stuff if there is some tightness imbalance somewhere. I have been lazy about stretching lately so this is what I get.
But this is real early stage, thinking I can knock it out with the usual combo of RICE, kinesio KT tape, stretching, foam rolling and ibuprofen. We'll see. The KT tape is real miraculous stuff if there is some tightness imbalance somewhere. I have been lazy about stretching lately so this is what I get.
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12-22-23, 01:14 PM
#9256
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There's a whole literature on a much weaker and somewhat less reputable form on noninvasive brain stimulation and without the kind of targeting and confirmation of brain effects that we do. Nevertheless, some interesting results. You can go out and buy these gizmos.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?ter...s&sort=pubdate
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?ter...s&sort=pubdate
12-22-23, 01:14 PM
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12-22-23, 01:16 PM
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12-22-23, 01:18 PM
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12-22-23, 01:18 PM
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12-22-23, 01:19 PM
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12-22-23, 01:19 PM
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I let soreness be my guide. If quads are sore to the touch, I'll do a flat ride with high cadence, maybe 1.5 hours or so. If I'm doing a hilly ride, and quads burn when standing, I'll switch to a less hilly route.
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12-22-23, 01:25 PM
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12-22-23, 01:26 PM
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Got some real low grade pain on the left patella last few hamster wheel sessions. I think all the zwift hammering contributes to that a bit, more of a fixed position, and for some reason I tend to mash a lower cadence. I seem to deal with knee issues that set me back a bit every few years.
But this is real early stage, thinking I can knock it out with the usual combo of RICE, kinesio KT tape, stretching, foam rolling and ibuprofen. We'll see. The KT tape is real miraculous stuff if there is some tightness imbalance somewhere. I have been lazy about stretching lately so this is what I get.
But this is real early stage, thinking I can knock it out with the usual combo of RICE, kinesio KT tape, stretching, foam rolling and ibuprofen. We'll see. The KT tape is real miraculous stuff if there is some tightness imbalance somewhere. I have been lazy about stretching lately so this is what I get.
Last night was the first time since Sunday that I rode the trainer. Very slight discomfort, which did not worsen and may have slightly improved. Of course, I started out by telling myself I'd only do half an hour, since I was recovering from an injury. After my usual warmup/spindown on Tempus Fugit, I went to Greatest London Loop, telling myself I'd stop before Leith Hill.
Did I do that? No, I did not. Instead, I went up Leith Hill. Ended up doing the whole route. So much for taking it easy.
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12-22-23, 01:30 PM
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I haven't seen many confirmed results type statements.
12-22-23, 01:34 PM
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At 100% yeesh. I could not stomach that regularly. Previous bf user gsteinb would regularly post about doing 3x20's at 100% on an old school dumb trainer... pure torture. Even on a smart trainer I wouldn't do that regularly, I can't hang
Those multiple LT workouts seem almost fun to me when doing hill repeats. It must be the "get to the top" motivation that keeps me going.
I was doing them last year on Mt. Hamilton: climb, descend, rest a minute or two, repeat. About 60 minutes of LT total. I saw some nice improvement.
I did Virtual Old La Honda at a pace of 3.2 W/kg. It felt pretty brutal.
As a comparison, I then did a real ride up to Huddart Park, trying to keep the same effort. I ended up doing 3.55 W/kg, and it felt much easier.
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12-22-23, 01:43 PM
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LT repeats on a dumb trainer? No, thank you. Torture -- even on a smart trainer.
Those multiple LT workouts seem almost fun to me when doing hill repeats. It must be the "get to the top" motivation that keeps me going.
I was doing them last year on Mt. Hamilton: climb, descend, rest a minute or two, repeat. About 60 minutes of LT total. I saw some nice improvement.
Those multiple LT workouts seem almost fun to me when doing hill repeats. It must be the "get to the top" motivation that keeps me going.
I was doing them last year on Mt. Hamilton: climb, descend, rest a minute or two, repeat. About 60 minutes of LT total. I saw some nice improvement.
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12-22-23, 01:50 PM
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Haven't done a club ride in 2 weeks and I hope to do one tomorrow with the right people. Went out for a short ride this morning to loosen up a bit. Got rained on a little and saw a dead crow which reminded me of this.
12-22-23, 01:53 PM
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Doing them on a climb is way more doable, maybe even fun. Esp since the speed is somewhat repeatable so you have benchmarks on the side of the road. There are no great climbs around here for me to do that but there were in college (Humboldt State). OLH seems like it would be good for that. Is it 20 minutes long for most riders?
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12-22-23, 01:54 PM
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I have some Wigwam merino wool socks in a medium weight. They are mid calf height and extremely comfortable. Warmer than other socks but not a cure-all.
12-22-23, 02:02 PM
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LT repeats on a dumb trainer? No, thank you. Torture -- even on a smart trainer.
Those multiple LT workouts seem almost fun to me when doing hill repeats. It must be the "get to the top" motivation that keeps me going.
I was doing them last year on Mt. Hamilton: climb, descend, rest a minute or two, repeat. About 60 minutes of LT total. I saw some nice improvement.
IMO, it's also the trainer.
I did Virtual Old La Honda at a pace of 3.2 W/kg. It felt pretty brutal.
As a comparison, I then did a real ride up to Huddart Park, trying to keep the same effort. I ended up doing 3.55 W/kg, and it felt much easier.
Those multiple LT workouts seem almost fun to me when doing hill repeats. It must be the "get to the top" motivation that keeps me going.
I was doing them last year on Mt. Hamilton: climb, descend, rest a minute or two, repeat. About 60 minutes of LT total. I saw some nice improvement.
IMO, it's also the trainer.
I did Virtual Old La Honda at a pace of 3.2 W/kg. It felt pretty brutal.
As a comparison, I then did a real ride up to Huddart Park, trying to keep the same effort. I ended up doing 3.55 W/kg, and it felt much easier.
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12-22-23, 02:03 PM
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12-22-23, 02:06 PM
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12-22-23, 02:12 PM
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