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12-07-20, 09:34 AM
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12-07-20, 09:37 AM
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Ouch. Challenge accepted, right?
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12-07-20, 09:41 AM
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12-07-20, 09:42 AM
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12-07-20, 09:43 AM
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You made me think of this guy on our cross country trip. He lived in Leadville, CO, at the time and was in his early 20s and a cross country runner. The highest elevation on the entire trip was Logan Pass in Glacier N.P. Just under 6,700'. While a couple of us were talking about altitude problems one day I remember him laughing and noting how his house was at around 10,000'.
12-07-20, 09:44 AM
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12-07-20, 09:50 AM
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Have thermal tights. Yesterday's ride in the low 50s in shorts had me wishing for some non-thermal tights. Thermal would been too much, but shorts were not enough. No place around here has any stock, so I'm trying to decide on a product to fill the gap.
12-07-20, 09:51 AM
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12-07-20, 09:52 AM
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They also don't cover up the club name on your shorts, for those of us who are into such things.
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12-07-20, 09:53 AM
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12-07-20, 09:55 AM
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I wear shorts in the 50s, anytime I need tights I’m in thermal. Yesterday I was in thermal tights, jacket, full face covering etc, was 30 degrees with 15-25mph winds.
12-07-20, 10:02 AM
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They tend to run out of stock quickly, but looks like all sizes are in stock at the moment.
12-07-20, 10:02 AM
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I don’t have any thermal bibs or tights yet. When it’s below 40 I wear my thermal leg warmers under my bib shorts. It has worked for me in temperatures as low as 25 degree American.
12-07-20, 10:11 AM
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I keep my knees covered when it's under about 63º F and often above that.
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12-07-20, 10:15 AM
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12-07-20, 10:15 AM
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Bib knickers are great in those middling temps, though I can see opting for knee warmers if you don't often ride in those conditions.
12-07-20, 10:26 AM
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Speaking of knees, mine have been aching a lot on my recent rides 
I went to 172.5 cranks on the SLT and that's where I notice it the most. The Trek has the same crank length but I don't really recall much soreness happening there. Maybe because I tend to push harder on the SLT. I typically don't fret about little changes like that all that much since I've always been fairly adaptable (maybe read "young"). But I seem to remember seeing a recent comment from an addictionite about biomechanics and peril...
Rode the fixed gear with 170mm arms yesterday and had some soreness afterwards while driving around but not during.
I went to 172.5 cranks on the SLT and that's where I notice it the most. The Trek has the same crank length but I don't really recall much soreness happening there. Maybe because I tend to push harder on the SLT. I typically don't fret about little changes like that all that much since I've always been fairly adaptable (maybe read "young"). But I seem to remember seeing a recent comment from an addictionite about biomechanics and peril...
Rode the fixed gear with 170mm arms yesterday and had some soreness afterwards while driving around but not during.
12-07-20, 10:51 AM
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Thanks for all the suggestions.
12-07-20, 11:10 AM
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12-07-20, 11:19 AM
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For this morning's commute, I wore MTB pants over worn out tights and shorts. Legs felt good.
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12-07-20, 11:29 AM
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Everyone is different, but I don't ever get/use bibs with a chamois. For temps above freezing I use leg/knee warmers. For below freezing I use tights OVER shorts (so 2 layers on shorts area), and if WAY below freezing do both tights over shorts AND leg warmers.
Bottom line is find what works for your needs.
Bottom line is find what works for your needs.
12-07-20, 11:43 AM
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I tried the tights over shorts (not bib tights) and the tights wouldn't stay up no matter what. I also have that problem with most leg warmers but I found some that have grippers on the outside and they stay up while riding but will fall if I walk around a bit. I guess my guads aren't massive enough.
12-07-20, 11:52 AM
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12-07-20, 12:01 PM
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12-07-20, 12:04 PM
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Ridiculously windy here again today, supposed to get worse tonight. Pizza guy invited me and one other on a ride for pizza tomorrow and hopefully the wind won't be too bad on the route.
Here he is waiting for me on a ride in the mountains we will ride the base of tomorrow.
Here he is waiting for me on a ride in the mountains we will ride the base of tomorrow.
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