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Old 08-27-20, 06:08 AM
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Hot. Yesterday was such a tease, wasn't it??
'Twas.
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Old 08-27-20, 06:18 AM
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Feels good here.I had a cold brewed iced pumpkin cream coffee yesterday. It was refreshing.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I decided that I should play it safe and get some Slim Fit pants in a 36" waist.
Wut.

I'm literally overweight and wear a 33" waist

Originally Posted by BillyD
Looks like I'm going to survive and you guys won't get stuck with Siu.


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I became a step-grandfather this afternoon. I entered the picture when Mom was seven. She turned 41 last week.


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Why would anyone want red?
IKR?

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Everyone knows that red bikes are the fastest.
But at what cost?

Red is at the very bottom of my list of preferred colors.

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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I became a step-grandfather this afternoon. I entered the picture when Mom was seven. She turned 41 last week.
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Old 08-27-20, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
1. What's the best solution to this problem?
2. How do most road cyclists deal with an empty front water bottle?
1. No clue, maybe you could kind of hold on to the bottle and the bar at the same time?
2. I do the same as you, hold the nozzle in my teeth and swap positions with the full seat tube bottle.
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Originally Posted by datlas
It turns out I have a toothache/dental problem that is caused by my cycling. I was considering posting my question/concern in the 41, but I will start here.

Several months ago I developed a mild but annoying toothache in my right lower bicuspid tooth. Within a few weeks, one of the causes became apparent, it's my water bottle switch technique: I am VERY comfortable drinking from the DT water bottle (for now, I will call this the "front" bottle), but not at all comfortable drinking from the ST bottle (the "rear" bottle). So my technique over the years while riding is drink from the front bottle, and when that bottle is empty, switch bottles by holding front empty bottle in mouth between teeth (and biting pretty hard so as to not lose bottle), reach down and switch rear bottle to front, then place empty bottle in rear cage. I realized that the hard biting on the right side of my mouth was aggravating if not causing the toothache.

So now I have switched sides and hold front empty bottle on the LEFT side of my mouth when I do the bottle switcheroo. However, I am starting to notice some minor toothache on THAT SIDE!

I suspect the best solution is to get used to drinking from the rear bottle once the front is empty and not bother with the switcheroo, but it feels VERY awkward and unnatural, akin to writing with my left hand (and I am a rightie).

So my long-winded question really has two pieces, which are likely opposite sides of the same coin:

1. What's the best solution to this problem?
2. How do most road cyclists deal with an empty front water bottle?
Easy solution is to just use the bottle from the cage it's in to start with

However, no need to use teeth. When the front bottle is empty, just hold it in your hand with that hand resting on the handlebar and use the other hand to switch bottle locations. Then place the empty bottle in the other cage. You only need a finger or two on the bars if going straight.
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abshipp gets it.
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Originally Posted by datlas
2. How do most road cyclists deal with an empty front water bottle?
smh.
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I leave my bottle open, so I dont even have to mess with my while riding.
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Old 08-27-20, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
In my teeth
I need to save my teeth. Hence my inquiry for a technique that spares the teeth.
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Old 08-27-20, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I see some people here, you know who you are, need to start using a Camelbak®.
En Oh Ef Yoo See King WAY.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
smh.
I knew the two-bottle problem would get a compassionate response from the mouse. I just knew it.
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Old 08-27-20, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Wut.

I'm literally overweight and wear a 33" waist
Multi-part answer:

American brands are vanity sized, so a 34" may measure out to 36" or more.

I'm actually big boned? I measured yesterday, and I'm right at 34" at the waist (well, what most men would consider their waist) and no amount of weight loss is going to move the needle much lower. I'm also the guy for whom they make the 155mm saddles; narrower don't provide any support.

That said, the thighs and glutes are usually the limiting factor for me. American 34" pants are loose around the waist but snug/slim from hips to knees.
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Originally Posted by datlas

1. What's the best solution to this problem?
2. How do most road cyclists deal with an empty front water bottle?
Learn to use the seat tube cage. It's not that hard.

On another subject, crazy HRV numbers this morning. Looks like ectopic beats. I think I can feel them, but they go away when I stop relaxation and hold a finger on an artery. I also think they're only happening in the exhalation phase of the respiratory cycle. I had planned 2 hrs of sweet spot, but I'm going to take it easy today and rip it up tomorrow.
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Before cycling I had gotten all the way up to 38. I’m back down to 32/33. Some 32 fit some don’t.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I knew the two-bottle problem would get a compassionate response from the mouse. I just knew it.
It's been a long time since I've needed one bottle, much less two. But they can be easily swapped whenever you stop. It's not like there's an emergency requiring sudden use of the rear one.
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[QUOTE=Velo Vol;21663407]It's been a long time since I needed one bottle, much less two. But they can be easily swapped whenever you stop. It's not like there's an emergency requiring sudden use of the rear one.[/QUOTE]


How do you know this?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Multi-part answer:

American brands are vanity sized, so a 34" may measure out to 36" or more.

I'm actually big boned? I measured yesterday, and I'm right at 34" at the waist (well, what most men would consider their waist) and no amount of weight loss is going to move the needle much lower. I'm also the guy for whom they make the 155mm saddles; narrower don't provide any support.

That said, the thighs and glutes are usually the limiting factor for me. American 34" pants are loose around the waist but snug/slim from hips to knees.
Military dress uniform pants and shirts are designed for a close fit and come in "athletic" sizes for just this issue. Strange that civilian duds don't.

I wear 30" waist pants and have thigh issues too, now that they're making them so skinny.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
It's been a long time since I've needed one bottle, much less two. But they can be easily swapped whenever you stop. It's not like there's an emergency requiring sudden use of the rear one.
When I am riding solo, it's fine. A non issue. But I do ride with my friends, and believe it or not, we often will ride for 1-2 hours STRAIGHT without a stop. I suppose I can stop and switch, then snap back to the others but that's hard work. Some of my friends are serious cyclists.
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Originally Posted by datlas
It turns out I have a toothache/dental problem that is caused by my cycling. I was considering posting my question/concern in the 41, but I will start here.

Several months ago I developed a mild but annoying toothache in my right lower bicuspid tooth. Within a few weeks, one of the causes became apparent, it's my water bottle switch technique: I am VERY comfortable drinking from the DT water bottle (for now, I will call this the "front" bottle), but not at all comfortable drinking from the ST bottle (the "rear" bottle). So my technique over the years while riding is drink from the front bottle, and when that bottle is empty, switch bottles by holding front empty bottle in mouth between teeth (and biting pretty hard so as to not lose bottle), reach down and switch rear bottle to front, then place empty bottle in rear cage. I realized that the hard biting on the right side of my mouth was aggravating if not causing the toothache.

So now I have switched sides and hold front empty bottle on the LEFT side of my mouth when I do the bottle switcheroo. However, I am starting to notice some minor toothache on THAT SIDE!

I suspect the best solution is to get used to drinking from the rear bottle once the front is empty and not bother with the switcheroo, but it feels VERY awkward and unnatural, akin to writing with my left hand (and I am a rightie).

So my long-winded question really has two pieces, which are likely opposite sides of the same coin:

1. What's the best solution to this problem?
2. How do most road cyclists deal with an empty front water bottle?
If I have one bottle with water and one with an electrolyte drink, I'll leave them where they are (water on the DT, electro on the ST); I don't drain one before moving on to the other and I want to know what I'm reaching for.

If I have two bottles, both filled with water, I'll switch, but I'll do it at mvnsnd suggests, but I'll hold the empty (it's lighter/easier to hold on to with forefinger and thumb) with a hand that's resting on the tops while switching the DT to the ST position.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I hold the empty bottle front and center while doing the switch. If I do the switch
same here
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Military dress uniform pants and shirts are designed for a close fit and come in "athletic" sizes for just this issue. Strange that civilian duds don't.

I wear 30" waist pants and have thigh issues too, now that they're making them so skinny.
There are some out there, but they're few, far between and are more often for shirts rather than pants. Years ago, I had bookmarked a website/blog that had recommendations for people with big thighs/glutes (I think that the author was a powerlifter), but everything needed to be ordered online, anyway, which is just too much of a faff (unless it's Rapha )
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
American brands are vanity sized, so a 34" may measure out to 36" or more.
So I'm even fatter than I think I am?

Lovely
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Originally Posted by datlas
When I am riding solo, it's fine. A non issue. But I do ride with my friends, and believe it or not, we often will ride for 1-2 hours STRAIGHT without a stop. I suppose I can stop and switch, then snap back to the others but that's hard work. Some of my friends are serious cyclists.
I don't ride with serious cyclists. Nor do I usually have stretches that long without intersections.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
abshipp gets it.
There was a really nice Burley Wolf Creek frameset in my size, in great shape, for sale locally at $200.

Checked most of my boxes in what I want in a frame, but the paint was red with tiny gold flake in it.

Hideous. Such a shame they ruined what could have been a great bike.
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