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Old 12-02-05, 08:11 PM
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Ver very sad news. RIP sydney.
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Originally Posted by Seggybop
I saw a report regarding the incident on CNN a minute ago, and looking at the twisted remnants of the bike made me sick. I can't think of any way to deal with that worthless kid that would be close to appropriate. It's so repugnant.

you're able to judge someone's worth based on an accident?
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Originally Posted by Seggybop
I saw a report regarding the incident on CNN a minute ago, and looking at the twisted remnants of the bike made me sick. I can't think of any way to deal with that worthless kid that would be close to appropriate. It's so repugnant.

I'm madder at the DA who didn't charge him with at least Vehicular Homicide. The kid may have just made a horrible mistake, but the punishment doesn't fit the crime. The kid didn't mean to kill him, but his inattention took a human life. Careless driving undervalues sydney's life. I only hope that the news, now that it's on CNN and the radio here, makes someone pay attention. sydney deserves that at least.
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Originally Posted by balto charlie
The most bummer news I've heard in a long time. I just rebuilt my old beater with Sidney's advice at each step. You will be missed like no other.
I saw the news a few days ago, but couldn't think of anything more to say than what you have said. The most bummer news. I am, too, just finishing a rebuild of an 80's bike and will say that sydney's "yeah, sure" comments were a key part if my decision to go ahead. To the extent that sydney could be considered an on-line curmudgeon, well, he was a man after my own heart.

I am of two minds with respect to the terrible circumstances. Probably 60 percent of me pulls my hair out and asks what kind of a world this is where we are raising young humans in such a way that they spend their time text messaging while (more or less) driving. Awful, awful. The remaining forty percent of me remembers that I, with my crew, did some things at the age of 17 that could have gotten some people killed. We were lucky and I am so thankful we were lucky.

The most bummer news.

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When will governments step up to the plate, and ban cell phones, and all these other electronic devices for drivers? I guess that telecommunication money is just too big for the greedy dirt-bags to pass up. There have been plenty of studies that show the obvious danger. Now, more lives are horribly impacted, and one more life is gone.

RIP sydney.
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I just put together a petition to send to Congress and to the Council of Mayors. If you can, please sign it, and distribute it around the different forums so we can get a big list of people supporting this- we need to stop people from using cell phones and their mobile devices while driving: https://www.petitiononline.com/7474355/petition.html

When I drive, I will NOT talk to people on the phone. My brother calls me, and the last time he called me while I was driving, I picked up the phone and screamed at him to stop calling me because I was trying to focus on driving. And whenever I use a cell phone, I pull over to the side of the road or stop at a gas station and make my calls. I know I can get really distracted while driving. It doesn't take much for me to get distracted, so I don't let anything distract me at all. I like to put all my concentration on driving safely.

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Originally Posted by scottmorrison99
I'm madder at the DA who didn't charge him with at least Vehicular Homicide. The kid may have just made a horrible mistake, but the punishment doesn't fit the crime. The kid didn't mean to kill him, but his inattention took a human life. Careless driving undervalues sydney's life. I only hope that the news, now that it's on CNN and the radio here, makes someone pay attention. sydney deserves that at least.
Send her an e-mail. I did. We all should. It's not over 'til it's over.

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Old 12-03-05, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
I just put together a petition to send to Congress and to the Council of Mayors. If you can, please sign it, and distribute it around the different forums so we can get a big list of people supporting this- we need to stop people from using cell phones and their mobile devices while driving: https://www.petitiononline.com/7474355/petition.html
I signed your petition and also put it up (voted for it) on stumbleupon. If any BF folks use stumbleupon and want to push the petition along perhaps you could do the same.

Perhaps every little bit might help.
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Old 12-03-05, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
If you do the Good Morning America thing, if you could take the time to look up the Ken Kifer website and read about him here and mention him when you do the story, that would really be an impact. Ken was so important to the cycling community, and he too was killed unnecessarily by a car. Why must we accept it when cyclists are killed "accidentally" by motorists and given a light sentence and a half-hearted prosecution?

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The tally if bicyclists killed by drunk drivers must be fairly high. In 1999, Cascade Bicycle Club had a ride across Washington State. We did 400 miles with only a few incidents. One of the women on that ride was from California. I don't recall but it was probably within a month of that ride, she was riding with a group in Calif and was hit around 10 A.M. (yes, MORNING) by a drunk woman. That drunk woman had her 8 to 10 year old child next to her in the car. There were lots of letters to the local DA. I don't recall the sentence but I think it was more than just a slap on the wrist. But that was a drunk driver. A drunk woman somewhat south of Seattle, took out a line of cyclists a number of years back and killed one, a young father of a toddler. About 100 cyclists on bicycles did attend his funeral and burial - a police escort was provided to keep it safe.
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"Per his wishes, Jim was cremated and his ashes will be taken to his favorite hunting site of 25 years and the lake where as a family we went camping.

James "Jim" R. Price of Littleton, Colo., was taken from us on Nov. 25, 2005, at the age of 63. Jim was born Feb. 1, 1942, in Fairmont, W.Va., to James W. and Margaret Stealey Price. He grew up in Mannington, W.Va., where he graduated from Mannington High School in 1960. He went on to attend the University of West Virginia where he graduated with a Master's Degree in Geology in 1966. He married Shirley Garner that same year. His field took him to Utah, Colorado and Texas. He retired as a Senior Geologist at the age of 55 when he became a consultant.

Jim and Shirley retired to Colorado to actively pursue their hobbies of hiking, fishing, and camping. Jim also enjoyed hunting. His passion was cycling, including building and maintaining his extensive collection, in addition to helping others with theirs.

He was preceded in death by his father, James W. Price.

Survivors include his wife, Shirley; two daughters, Kimberlee (James) Stevens, Jessica Price; three grandchildren, Jansen, Kyra and Kelby; his 90-year-old mother, Margaret Stealey Price; a brother, Tom Price of Ohio; a sister, Janet Cain of West Virginia; nieces, nephews and many friends.

In lieu of flowers, the family suggests memorials be to Bicycle Colorado, Donor Alliance or a charity of choice."
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I thought we were keeping this thread a tribute to sydney. If anyone wants to debate the issue of the driver and his crime, please start a new thread.
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Old 12-06-05, 01:30 PM
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I saw the news story about this accident the day it happened. Hearing that a cyclist who seemed to be doing everything right was killed by a careless and stupid driver always troubles me, and the situation surrounding this one definitely outraged me. That was before I realized that I 'knew' the cyclist involved.

Today, I logged on to the forums for the first time in a few weeks. Learning that the cyclist involved was sydney deeply saddens me. I always enjoyed sydney's posts, and had more than a few very fun interactions with him.

To say Jim Price is a great loss to the cycling community would be an understatement.

RIP, Jim. Keep all those carpet smoking muppets up there in check for us, you hear?
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Hey now... there's the petition still going. I'd hoped to get more signatures by now, but we're only at a couple of hundred. The link(s) are in my signature. Please sign. sydney's daughter did... step up to the plate, everyone... sign!

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I've signed, although I didn't know Sydney too well, I am shocked and disgusted about the sentence that was given to driver.
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
I just put together a petition to send to Congress and to the Council of Mayors. If you can, please sign it, and distribute it around the different forums so we can get a big list of people supporting this- we need to stop people from using cell phones and their mobile devices while driving: https://www.petitiononline.com/7474355/petition.html

When I drive, I will NOT talk to people on the phone. My brother calls me, and the last time he called me while I was driving, I picked up the phone and screamed at him to stop calling me because I was trying to focus on driving. And whenever I use a cell phone, I pull over to the side of the road or stop at a gas station and make my calls. I know I can get really distracted while driving. It doesn't take much for me to get distracted, so I don't let anything distract me at all. I like to put all my concentration on driving safely.

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Koffee, I really like your petition.

One thing I would add is that perhaps you should cite some of the recent studies that show that drivers talking on cell phones have a higher accident rate than drunk drivers (google search will find these). It's always good to have hard statistics to back these things up!
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God bless You, your Father and Family. I had been gone a month or so and just came back and it seemed so very quiet, I started a few threads and, there was no challange to my new found knowledge and no one was around to bust my butt. One of the reasons I worked hard to know my stuff is because your Father challenged me to get up off my duff and take it serious, there was no room for a half effort or mediocrity here, when you come to sydney's temple you'd had better paid attention to his lessons and, you'd had better studied your bike bible.

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I had been gone a month or so and just came back and it seemed so very quiet, I started a few threads and, there was no challange to my new knowledge and no one was around to bust my butt. One of the reasons I have worked hard to know my stuff is because sydney challenged me to get up off my duff and take it serious, there was no room for a half effort or mediocrity here, when you come to sydney's temple you'd better paid attention to his lessons and, you'd had better studied your bike bible.
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Old 12-07-05, 11:10 PM
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I as well have been gone for a couple months and just heard from christoph1 about the tragedy. Cheers syd, you will be missed.
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Koffee, did you by chance visit the other sites Sidney frequented, especially the Bicycling Magazine forum and mention your petition? I hope you do, that will bring a bunch more signers.
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I'll visit them. I'll swing by those forums tomorrow.

Thanks.

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I havent been here for a little while and I am shocked and saddened by this news. I have signed the petition and would like to pass on my condolences to sydney's family. I haven't posted that much here just the odd question, my last post had one reply and that was sydney's and i forgot my manners and didn't post to thank him....so thanks sydney for the advice....rest in peace
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There have been several threads this week where I kept waiting for Sydney's post. A discussion of various types of steel tubing...certainly one of the tubes being discussed would have been "gas pipe". And, someone was considering buying one or two Schwinn Continentals...Schwinn's indestructable 38 pound H2 of a road bike. And, I know he would not have let that thread go unanswered.

In one of his later posts, I saw a list of the bikes he had...he certainly had an eye for the very best...

In reading a number of cycling books over the past decade, I noticed that a surprisingly high number of devoted cyclists die while riding. Some were struck by motor vehicles. Others fell in a bike crash. Others dead of a heart attack, or stroke, hit by a falling tree, or flipped by broken pavement...some at young ages, some at very old ages.

And, what is the alternative? We could hide in our living rooms, safe on our sofa. But, on the average, a devoted couch potato probably has a shorter life than the folks who ride their bikes ten or twenty hours a week. And, there is no way a couch potato could be enjoying life as much as an avid cyclist.

If Sydney had owned a crystal ball, and known how his life would end, I doubt he would have changed a thing...he seems to have been a Frank Sinatra sort of guy...he lived life HIS way.

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Just like motorcyclists, those of us who ride bicycles take a tremendous risk. A man I met one evening on the Michigander was killed by a car the next day. While nothing will change the risks assosiated with riding 2 wheeled devices, there is no reason for the added danger of drivers with phones. That is why I will be linking to this petition on my sig line in the other forums I am a member of.

Very few people know when their time will be up. I personaly would rather die having fun than die slowly a nursing home like my grandma. Sydney died doing what he loved, and for that I think we can all be happy for him.
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
There have been several threads this week where I kept waiting for Sydney's post. A discussion of various types of steel tubing...certainly one of the tubes being discussed would have been "gas pipe". And, someone was considering buying one or two Schwinn Continentals...Schwinn's indestructable 38 pound H2 of a road bike. And, I know he would not have let that thread go unanswered.

In one of his later posts, I saw a list of the bikes he had...he certainly had an eye for the very best...

In reading a number of cycling books over the past decade, I noticed that a surprisingly high number of devoted cyclists die while riding. Some were struck by motor vehicles. Others fell in a bike crash. Others dead of a heart attack, or stroke, hit by a falling tree, or flipped by broken pavement...some at young ages, some at very old ages.

And, what is the alternative? We could hide in our living rooms, safe on our sofa. But, on the average, a devoted couch potato probably has a shorter life than the folks who ride their bikes ten or twenty hours a week. And, there is no way a couch potato could enjoy life as much as a cyclists.

If Sydney had owned a crystal ball, and known how his life would end, I doubt he would have changed a thing...he seems to have been a Frank Sinatra sort of guy...he lived life HIS way
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Very well said. I've been thinking about the risks a fair bit myself lately since sydney's passing and with my wedding next year. I certainly want to be around for my wife for many many years, but on the flip side being healthy and enjoying life are key elements to life. Cycling is dangerous, my boss just bought a motorcycle and is still of the opinion that anyone who rides a bike on the street is insane. I held my tongue that his own son and I often ride together - on the streets.
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I have not been on in a few weeks and just learned about sydney. I am deeply saddned I did not know him personaly but he was a great source of information for the people who wanted it.
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