Gary fisher Aquila bike buy or pass?
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Gary fisher Aquila and Marlin pair
Hello, I’m new to the forum but have been lurking trying to find a good first bike. My coworker has a pair of Gary fisher Aquila’s that he wants to sell for 300$. He’s said they paid 800-900$ each back in the day. They’ve been rarely used and stored in his shop. Photos are bad and they are dusty but seem to be in good shape.
Is it worth buying this pair for the fiancé and I or should I pass and buy a more modern bike (thinking Raleigh talus 1 and EVA 2 or something from dicks sporting goods or Dunham’s sports). I figured for 150$ each bike it’s much better than anything new that is 150$.
We will be on pavement most of the time but they’re putting in a mountain bike park in town and it’d be nice to have something that is going to handle trying that.
Thanks in advance.
Is it worth buying this pair for the fiancé and I or should I pass and buy a more modern bike (thinking Raleigh talus 1 and EVA 2 or something from dicks sporting goods or Dunham’s sports). I figured for 150$ each bike it’s much better than anything new that is 150$.
We will be on pavement most of the time but they’re putting in a mountain bike park in town and it’d be nice to have something that is going to handle trying that.
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by Cortland15b; 07-29-19 at 01:32 PM. Reason: Title changed with updated bike models
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Are the bikes your size? They will probably need a tune up so factor that in. A photo would be helpful.
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We’re going to have to go try them out to see if the size is right. Unfortunately you need 10 posts to be allowed to post pictures
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It looks like the Aquila was last made in 2000. That suggests they are built using old-style geometry that I personally like to avoid. You will probably find short top tubes, long stems, and steep head angles.
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The Aquila was my first mountain bike and is probably about 20yrs old. It was a nice bike back then but a lot has changed. As another has asked, are either the right size and do you need two bikes? 20 yo 26r wheeled bikes of average build level aren't worth much now. What I liked about the Aquila was that it was made of True Temper steel.
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The 2nd bike is for my fiancé. It’s a husband and wife pair. I’ll post photos when I have posted enough though they are crappy photos.
How does the new geometry vs the old geometry effect the ride and handling?
How does the new geometry vs the old geometry effect the ride and handling?
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Compared to the two modern bikes I’m looking at (Raleigh talus 1 and EVA 2) how would the Aquila’s compare? For twice the price for the pair how much different will they be better or worse?
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How you going to ride them? Hard trails? Just tooling around? I'm sure they'll be better than what you can get at $150 from a big box store.
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At $150 each, you would be near full market value in my area, but you can do much worse. They may be a good option to see if you actually enjoying riding bikes, but not good on technical trails.
The most important factor is if they fit you. Research the size of bikes you two should be riding and you can have your friend measure the frames. Alternatively, if you are about the same height you may be OK.
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I ended up getting them for 100$ for the pair. One bike needs new tubes and they both need a tune up. I was mistaken though and one is an Aquila and one is a marlin. The tires aren’t dry rotted which is good.
I rode the marlin last night and it doesn’t shift very fast. Any good resources on how to take these things apart and clean and adjust everything?
I rode the marlin last night and it doesn’t shift very fast. Any good resources on how to take these things apart and clean and adjust everything?
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I ended up getting them for 100$ for the pair. One bike needs new tubes and they both need a tune up. I was mistaken though and one is an Aquila and one is a marlin. The tires aren’t dry rotted which is good.
I rode the marlin last night and it doesn’t shift very fast. Any good resources on how to take these things apart and clean and adjust everything?
I rode the marlin last night and it doesn’t shift very fast. Any good resources on how to take these things apart and clean and adjust everything?
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I cleaned up the marlin tonight, once the dust was off the nice sparkly aqua green frame looked real nice. Lubed the chain up and had to adjust both the front and rear derailleurs the shifting was bad. It took forever since this was the first time doing it. The front derailleur was harder than the back. I tried adjusting the brakes as best I could by tightening them up. Going to take it for a spin tomorrow. The marlin might be the fiancés bike. The bikes came with one of those workout stands so I was actually able to work on it.
Going to pick up a tube for the Aquila tomorrow and start working on that one.
One of the break pads on the marlin wasn’t parallel with the rim and I couldn’t figure out how to adjust it, any ideas? The brakes also seemed to lightly rub the rims so more adjustment is needed.
Going to pick up a tube for the Aquila tomorrow and start working on that one.
One of the break pads on the marlin wasn’t parallel with the rim and I couldn’t figure out how to adjust it, any ideas? The brakes also seemed to lightly rub the rims so more adjustment is needed.
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I cleaned up the marlin tonight, once the dust was off the nice sparkly aqua green frame looked real nice. Lubed the chain up and had to adjust both the front and rear derailleurs the shifting was bad. It took forever since this was the first time doing it. The front derailleur was harder than the back. I tried adjusting the brakes as best I could by tightening them up. Going to take it for a spin tomorrow. The marlin might be the fiancés bike. The bikes came with one of those workout stands so I was actually able to work on it.
Going to pick up a tube for the Aquila tomorrow and start working on that one.
One of the break pads on the marlin wasn’t parallel with the rim and I couldn’t figure out how to adjust it, any ideas? The brakes also seemed to lightly rub the rims so more adjustment is needed.
Going to pick up a tube for the Aquila tomorrow and start working on that one.
One of the break pads on the marlin wasn’t parallel with the rim and I couldn’t figure out how to adjust it, any ideas? The brakes also seemed to lightly rub the rims so more adjustment is needed.
post pics when you get a chance. Curious on which year they are.
Are both with rigid forks? Are either aluminum?
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I’ll post pics as soon as I can.
Here’s the info I know.
Marlin:
Shimano wheels, grip shift shifters, SLR brakes BR-CT90-M with Shimano pads, Shimano Alivio rear derailleur that says IG compatible, Shimano Acera X pedal, Shimano hyperdrive C front cassette. 18” frame. Made in Taiwan sticker. Aqua green sparkly frame with copper letters
Aquila:
Shimano STX front and rear derailleurs, grip shift shifters, power control dia-compe 7 hand brakes, Shimano M 65/T pads, System Components 6061 T6 treated aluminum handlebars 230 grams, true temper, Ox comp, Cro-mo tube, double butted, 15.5” frame. This one has an American flag on it and a BS# right below U.S.A. Forest green sparkly frame with copper letters
Here’s the info I know.
Marlin:
Shimano wheels, grip shift shifters, SLR brakes BR-CT90-M with Shimano pads, Shimano Alivio rear derailleur that says IG compatible, Shimano Acera X pedal, Shimano hyperdrive C front cassette. 18” frame. Made in Taiwan sticker. Aqua green sparkly frame with copper letters
Aquila:
Shimano STX front and rear derailleurs, grip shift shifters, power control dia-compe 7 hand brakes, Shimano M 65/T pads, System Components 6061 T6 treated aluminum handlebars 230 grams, true temper, Ox comp, Cro-mo tube, double butted, 15.5” frame. This one has an American flag on it and a BS# right below U.S.A. Forest green sparkly frame with copper letters
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The brakes are either cantilever and usually you adjust the pads (which you might want to replace) by loosening the 10 mm nut and aligning them with the rim before tightening. If they're "V"-style, just use a 5 mm allen to loosen the pads. Did you look at the Sheldon Brown site for hints? Almost any conceivable repair or adjustment is explained.
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I’ll post pics as soon as I can.
Here’s the info I know.
Marlin:
Shimano wheels, grip shift shifters, SLR brakes BR-CT90-M with Shimano pads, Shimano Alivio rear derailleur that says IG compatible, Shimano Acera X pedal, Shimano hyperdrive C front cassette. 18” frame. Made in Taiwan sticker. Aqua green sparkly frame with copper letters
Aquila:
Shimano STX front and rear derailleurs, grip shift shifters, power control dia-compe 7 hand brakes, Shimano M 65/T pads, System Components 6061 T6 treated aluminum handlebars 230 grams, true temper, Ox comp, Cro-mo tube, double butted, 15.5” frame. This one has an American flag on it and a BS# right below U.S.A. Forest green sparkly frame with copper letters
Here’s the info I know.
Marlin:
Shimano wheels, grip shift shifters, SLR brakes BR-CT90-M with Shimano pads, Shimano Alivio rear derailleur that says IG compatible, Shimano Acera X pedal, Shimano hyperdrive C front cassette. 18” frame. Made in Taiwan sticker. Aqua green sparkly frame with copper letters
Aquila:
Shimano STX front and rear derailleurs, grip shift shifters, power control dia-compe 7 hand brakes, Shimano M 65/T pads, System Components 6061 T6 treated aluminum handlebars 230 grams, true temper, Ox comp, Cro-mo tube, double butted, 15.5” frame. This one has an American flag on it and a BS# right below U.S.A. Forest green sparkly frame with copper letters
https://www.vintage-trek.com/Trek-Fis...nualFisher.pdf
https://www.vintage-trek.com/Trek-Fis...1995fisher.pdf
Marlin about the same era but a notch lower than the Aquila
Brakes are probably lower end cantilevers. They were the first to break on me as the calipers have many weak points made of plastic.
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So we just got back from our test trip and the Marlin had shifting issues on the front derailleur getting into the lowest gear (1). After inspecting it when we got back I think I found the problem. The shifter was slacking the cable but the derailleur is having trouble springing back into place. So I took off the derailleur and am soaking it. It doesn’t seem to be able to come off the chain in any way. Any other tips to cleaning this thing?
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Upgrade to V-brakes for safety. (I know cantis can work fine, but 20 yo neglected cantis will probably need pads at least, I'd get vbrakes)
Watch videos on how to "tune-up" your bikes yourself.
Enjoy!
Watch videos on how to "tune-up" your bikes yourself.
Enjoy!
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That issue could be just a limit screw adjustment.
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Yes it was a limit screw that I was adjusting improperly! After cleaning it up and reinstalling I think I’ve gotten it adjusted properly this time around. We’ll have to take them out for a test ride tonight.
Does anyone have suggestions for cost effective brake pads? The brakes work nicely but the brake material is starting to crack in spots.