For the love of English 3 speeds...
02-08-16, 12:33 PM
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Well, not all of them were. This bike's head badge says made in England, it seems to have a SA hub and still, the long aluminum tip on the front fender.
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02-08-16, 01:50 PM
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Some of the higher end Japanese bicycles used SA hubs as did most upscale makers because they were recognized as being better, Suntour sold SA hubs under license as well.
02-08-16, 01:59 PM
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This is what makes these British bikes classic, the fact they they were so widely emulated across the planet.
Some of the higher end Japanese bicycles used SA hubs as did most upscale makers because they were recognized as being better, Suntour sold SA hubs under license as well.
Some of the higher end Japanese bicycles used SA hubs as did most upscale makers because they were recognized as being better, Suntour sold SA hubs under license as well.
02-08-16, 03:11 PM
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[QUOTE=shadaboot28;18515357]
Yes it is amazing how the mudguards have survived! Mine are mint with no cracks or damages at all!
And I've seen your clipper and I love it! I really want one for myself but they are the rarest ones to find out of all the brother/sister bikes....
And here's a picture of the transfer.
Wow! Your mudguard decal is even better than mine!
Quite amazing how they survived over all these years, being so really, really delicate.
In my opinion the remaining Raleigh Lentons are very cool.
The Rudge & Humber variants are so much rarer!!
Especially in prime condition.
I say no more; )
Yes it is amazing how the mudguards have survived! Mine are mint with no cracks or damages at all!
And I've seen your clipper and I love it! I really want one for myself but they are the rarest ones to find out of all the brother/sister bikes....
And here's a picture of the transfer.
Quite amazing how they survived over all these years, being so really, really delicate.
In my opinion the remaining Raleigh Lentons are very cool.
The Rudge & Humber variants are so much rarer!!
Especially in prime condition.
I say no more; )
02-08-16, 05:46 PM
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[QUOTE=Bicyclz;18521319]
I confess! My Rudge transfer is a replica I put on as the original was almost completely missing.
Wow! Your mudguard decal is even better than mine!
Quite amazing how they survived over all these years, being so really, really delicate.
In my opinion the remaining Raleigh Lentons are very cool.
The Rudge & Humber variants are so much rarer!!
Especially in prime condition.
I say no more; )
Quite amazing how they survived over all these years, being so really, really delicate.
In my opinion the remaining Raleigh Lentons are very cool.
The Rudge & Humber variants are so much rarer!!
Especially in prime condition.
I say no more; )
02-08-16, 06:25 PM
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What's the significance of the Rudge Hand?
02-08-16, 06:31 PM
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A lot of my spare SA parts that I picked up from various shops came in packages marked Suntour... for a while many local shops were getting rid of their SA parts and quite a few gave them to me.
Same thing happened with my cog boards.
It is good to know people and now those shops send business to me when it comes to SA hub service and custom freewheels.
02-08-16, 06:48 PM
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That's naughty, but honesty is always the best policy!!
It is still very nice: )
But, has yours got the other, little one, above it??
The 'New Elizabethan' one?
; )
That's naughty, but honesty is always the best policy!!
It is still very nice: )
But, has yours got the other, little one, above it??
The 'New Elizabethan' one?
; )
02-08-16, 07:00 PM
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02-09-16, 04:15 AM
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Anybody in the uk looking for a lenton?
Vintage Barn/Shed find 1950s Raleigh lenton sports 531 Reg Harris road model | eBay
Vintage Barn/Shed find 1950s Raleigh lenton sports 531 Reg Harris road model | eBay
02-09-16, 04:16 AM
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It is an SA hub, just branded Suntour.
A lot of my spare SA parts that I picked up from various shops came in packages marked Suntour... for a while many local shops were getting rid of their SA parts and quite a few gave them to me.
Same thing happened with my cog boards.
It is good to know people and now those shops send business to me when it comes to SA hub service and custom freewheels.
A lot of my spare SA parts that I picked up from various shops came in packages marked Suntour... for a while many local shops were getting rid of their SA parts and quite a few gave them to me.
Same thing happened with my cog boards.
It is good to know people and now those shops send business to me when it comes to SA hub service and custom freewheels.
02-09-16, 06:00 AM
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02-09-16, 06:42 AM
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I don't think the Rudge version had any transfers above it. I think it was only the Humber that did.
I don't think the Rudge version had any transfers above it. I think it was only the Humber that did.
02-09-16, 06:43 AM
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Anybody in the uk looking for a lenton?
Vintage Barn/Shed find 1950s Raleigh lenton sports 531 Reg Harris road model | eBay
Vintage Barn/Shed find 1950s Raleigh lenton sports 531 Reg Harris road model | eBay
I'm looking for one to be part of my collection. If the paintwork was in better condition I would definitely go for this!
02-09-16, 07:42 AM
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Excellent condition, even the decals it looks like, beautiful, I hope I can put a Craig's list ad in because for posterity these are nice and won't be sold probably soon at this price.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/c...433967045.html
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/c...433967045.html
02-09-16, 07:52 AM
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I just picked up an NOS Suntour 3 speed set up. Looks very much like SA made and the pulley wheel is even labeled SA.
One thing missing is the trigger shift. Crowd tells me a SA will shift it also. Would be nice to find one eventually to match the Suntour hub but I can make due for now.
One thing missing is the trigger shift. Crowd tells me a SA will shift it also. Would be nice to find one eventually to match the Suntour hub but I can make due for now.
02-09-16, 07:33 PM
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1965 Raleigh Sports
I found this at a bike show and swap meet on the front lawn of the Lars Anderson Transportation Museum in Brookline, Mass. a few years ago. It was completely disassembled and the parts were spread out on a blanket behind a vendors tent. Many of the small parts were packed into a cake box from Hoff's Bakery in Medford. As I carried the box to my car I could hear the ball bearings rolling around on the cardboard. Although mostly complete, it was missing the pedals, chain, tire inflator, and kit bag. The paint, box lining, and chrome are very good, but I suspect someone tried to pressure wash it and spoiled some of the decals
02-09-16, 09:22 PM
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02-09-16, 10:18 PM
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While not original John Bull, I saw that Harris is now carrying these Fibrax "rain cheater" brake pads:
Fibrax Raincheater Vintage Brake Pads f/Steel Rims - Harris Cyclery bicycle shop - West Newton, Massachusetts
Fibrax Raincheater Vintage Brake Pads f/Steel Rims - Harris Cyclery bicycle shop - West Newton, Massachusetts
02-10-16, 07:39 AM
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02-10-16, 07:47 AM
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02-10-16, 04:04 PM
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Based on how much it would cost to tool up to produce what was a smaller number of hubs and components, I'd say that most of the complex parts were made in England and then sent to Japan for assembly.
Some of the simpler internal parts would have been easier to produce than others so there is probably some local content as well.
As it is, Suntour 3 speed hubs are not very common at all.
Some of the simpler internal parts would have been easier to produce than others so there is probably some local content as well.
As it is, Suntour 3 speed hubs are not very common at all.