big john

That plus when traffic is clear idiots seem to think they can make up for all the times they were stuck in congestion.

big john

There's always been brain disease due to sitting behind a steering wheel.

MoAlpha

**** could really get real.

I attended a session on exactly the same question today, led by our head bioethics person with an outside speaker. No one is really willling to come out with a set of hard criteria and priorities.

abshipp 

I know this topic has died, but I wanted to thank you for your reply. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

And yeah, the deceleration problem to make human travel a worthwhile thing is a big issue. Having to carry double the fuel you need to get there just to stop in time? I know there is atmospheric braking and that works great for a lot of LEO and 'local' trips, but given the speeds that you would need to go interstellar it just can't be practical.

I enjoyed your analogy as well.

Have you watched the Hulu series "Project Blue Book"? It's kind of dumb, but I really enjoy it at least.

datlas 

They actually have a validated score system based on various objective criteria. If beds or vents not adequate, people with the worst score/prognosis don’t get treated or have it withdrawn. It’s terrible but worst-case, necessary. They make it very clear that the people on this committee are NOT the clinicians who are caring for individuals. This is more like population management.

I sure hope it’s not needed. Fingers crossed.

indyfabz

There’s no place like home.

datlas 

Bah Humbug

Accidents are UP in Austin. #texas

Bah Humbug

I have not, but I'll add it to the list, thanks! It may be good trainer fodder.

Bah Humbug

I'm sure he's happy to be home and you're happy to have him. Everything went well, such as it is under the circumstances?

Bah Humbug

And it seems we're going to put an offer in on that house. Seems surreal under the circumstances, but its a gem.

MoAlpha

The discussion I heard went beyond clinical criteria to emergency provider status, self-inflicted harms, e.g., smoking, and discussion of whether risk factors, e.g., metabolic syndrome, acquired as a partial result of racial or economic care disparities should be considered differently.

And yes, the triage committee is there to insulate the providers from having, or being allowed, to make any resource allocation decisions.

Yeah, good to think about, awful to have to do.

ls01

They would have to have a brain then wouldnt they? I see no evidence of that....

MoAlpha

Something's making the limbs move and the mouth talk ****e.

abshipp 

That's a very content looking kitty

I'm sure you feel even better than he does to have him home

datlas 

I eyeballed the criteria. It was really more on comorbidities. Could not be based on immigration status or other demographics (except maybe age). It’s as fair as it can be. Still terrible.

ls01

congratulations

MoAlpha

If one only considers the medical issues.

Bah Humbug

And not a thing I ever thought would be happening on US soil in peacetime.

abshipp 

Bah Humbug

It puts a bad dat at the office for me into perspective. I'm glad you're doing the job; I'd have a very hard time with it.

abshipp 

Worked from home today due to my poor wife having a terrible muscle spasm in her back, and I wanted to make sure any help she needed was available.

Thankfully, she's doing a lot better. She finally has a functional range of movement after being basically immobile and bedridden. Really tough to see

OTOH, I kind of forgot how nice it was to listen to music on some decent near-field desktop speakers.

MoAlpha

I'm glad he's doing it too.

Bah Humbug

Oof… my sympathies to her. When your back goes, you're done. There is little that miserable.

ls01

muscle memory?