Am I Evil? - Craigslist Flip
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You don't need a bricks and mortar to have ethics. Buying and selling by definition is a business transaction. But the OP bought at one price and doubled his/her money. To me, that is buying at wholesale and selling at retail. That's just good capitalism.
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He's simply saying that if someone comes to your car lot to trade a 1954 Corvette and tells you they want $500 for it, you could be morally and even legally obliged to inform them that the vehicle is worth much more.
It doesn't apply to the situation the OP described, but as this is an internet forum I'm sure this thread will degrade to a complete debacle in no time!
It doesn't apply to the situation the OP described, but as this is an internet forum I'm sure this thread will degrade to a complete debacle in no time!
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If you can more power to you
a guy just bought a bike from me (70s rollfast delex) today for 30 bucks
I just checked craiglist and he re listed it for 120 saying its a great for fixie conversion a few hours later
a guy just bought a bike from me (70s rollfast delex) today for 30 bucks
I just checked craiglist and he re listed it for 120 saying its a great for fixie conversion a few hours later
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Fair play! I do this all the time with items I know of are value and then flip them in the right market, with the right marketing.
Don't feel bad, you have to get paid and you did the leg work...etc.
Don't feel bad, you have to get paid and you did the leg work...etc.
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I would tell someone the truth if they asked me how much something is worth. If they tell me I'll take $X for an item, I'm under no obligation to tell them it's actually worth $Y.
He's simply saying that if someone comes to your car lot to trade a 1954 Corvette and tells you they want $500 for it, you could be morally and even legally obliged to inform them that the vehicle is worth much more.
It doesn't apply to the situation the OP described, but as this is an internet forum I'm sure this thread will degrade to a complete debacle in no time!
It doesn't apply to the situation the OP described, but as this is an internet forum I'm sure this thread will degrade to a complete debacle in no time!
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Well..at least you're honest about it and we all know how you think now.
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You can see it two ways.
I have encountered this quandary in the past and decided that it was best to give the seller more than what they were asking, minus a discount for doing what was right. Karma will return to you, and it is up to you to determine how good/bad that karma will be.
Another possibility would be that the seller was willing to take much less as a convenience discount for ensuring they got rid of the property before moving.
Case by case situation, but you aren't going to Hell.
I have encountered this quandary in the past and decided that it was best to give the seller more than what they were asking, minus a discount for doing what was right. Karma will return to you, and it is up to you to determine how good/bad that karma will be.
Another possibility would be that the seller was willing to take much less as a convenience discount for ensuring they got rid of the property before moving.
Case by case situation, but you aren't going to Hell.
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The nasty emails probably come from people who think you just sold it without doing anything to it. If you took the time to tune it up and make it more presentable, you're entitled to get paid for that. I know a few people who flip bikes as a side job to get extra spending money.
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It's just stupid silly to think it's WRONG to buy something that is severely under-priced, clean it up, then turn around and sell it at an appropriate price point. Tell those emailers to go burn down all their local pawn shops. Hell..might as well burn down the bike shops too..cuz guess what...they buy stuff cheap and sell it higher..oh my!!
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My room mate once paid $270 for an old Peugeot ten speed on Craigslist. He wasn't happy when I pointed out to him that his bicycle had sold for $70 about 5 days earlier. The flipper hard-balled him on the price. I guess that's just reason to do your research.
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Do any of you guys watch Pawn Stars? It explains how people buy and sell things for different prices all the time.
And OP, I live in your area and saw many of the comments. People were just being stupid.
And OP, I live in your area and saw many of the comments. People were just being stupid.
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Yet another agreement that as long as the bike wasn't stolen, you did nothing wrong.
No matter how good the bike looked, the bottom line is you took a risk in purchasing it and spent time and effort into fixing it up. Anyone who doesn't like it should go suck it.
I concur it's also entirely possible that the people chewing you out also flip bikes, and don't want the competition. Heck, it could be one person with a couple of sock puppets. And it's not like these individuals can have any effect on you -- CL hardly has a reporting system like eBay.
That said, I'd ignore the CL ninnies; engaging them directly will only make things worse. Just keep on flippin'.
No matter how good the bike looked, the bottom line is you took a risk in purchasing it and spent time and effort into fixing it up. Anyone who doesn't like it should go suck it.
I concur it's also entirely possible that the people chewing you out also flip bikes, and don't want the competition. Heck, it could be one person with a couple of sock puppets. And it's not like these individuals can have any effect on you -- CL hardly has a reporting system like eBay.
That said, I'd ignore the CL ninnies; engaging them directly will only make things worse. Just keep on flippin'.
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So I recently flipped a bike I bought and sold on Craigslist. I bought it, tuned it up a bit and flipped it for double what I paid.
I got some nasty emails about this from some of the people on CL but didn't pay it much mind. Am I truly evil for recognizing a heavily underpriced bike, giving it some love, and doubling my money?
What do you think?
I got some nasty emails about this from some of the people on CL but didn't pay it much mind. Am I truly evil for recognizing a heavily underpriced bike, giving it some love, and doubling my money?
What do you think?
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By the time you finish doing all the tax returns on your profit, you will know who the evil one is. You are going to report this aren't you?
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Enjoy the free market. F the people that hate on craigslist.
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Of course you're MORE than evil....YOU are the Antichrist j/k.I see nothing wrong with what you did
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Do any of you guys watch Pawn Stars?
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When it comes right down to it, the fact that you worked on the bike, before you flipped it, should be irrelevant.
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Anybody who has a problem with this should run down to WalMart and start protesting, or the local car dealer, gas station, clothing store...shall I go on?
That is business. You get it for less, you mark it up 10%, or 100% or 1000% depending on the product to make a profit. It is called capitalism.
That is business. You get it for less, you mark it up 10%, or 100% or 1000% depending on the product to make a profit. It is called capitalism.
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What do you tell a potential buyer when they ask you about the bike's history? Depending on how you answer this question will aid you in determining the answer to your query.
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Anybody who has a problem with this should run down to WalMart and start protesting, or the local car dealer, gas station, clothing store...shall I go on?
That is business. You get it for less, you mark it up 10%, or 100% or 1000% depending on the product to make a profit. It is called capitalism.
That is business. You get it for less, you mark it up 10%, or 100% or 1000% depending on the product to make a profit. It is called capitalism.
Whether the Craiglist flipper actually does something of value to earn his $$$ is debatable, and varies from case to case. IMHO.