DougRNS

This should cheer you up. Important information highlighted.

DougRNS

Enjoy and thank me later.

rjones28 

Haven't met the requirements.

Velo Vol 

No one cares.
Is it a base 10 or base 12 system?

rjones28 

Neither, based on historical trends.

Velo Vol 

We seem to have entered a new age.

rjones28 

phrantic09

Give it a day

phrantic09

Whoever BF is using to target their ads is clearly missing their mark big time.

WhyFi

Here you go phrantic09 - who need studs?

rjones28 

Looks heavy.

bampilot06

is the kickstand for safety?

2manybikes

You can put that on a trainer and cut logs for the woodstove.

genejockey 

Took the week off of work, and rode every day but Monday. By Thursday, I kind of felt drained. Then last night, I did the Tour de Zwift final stage, doing the C ride. This was a mostly flat ride on the Champs Elysees, 3 laps. Tried to hang with the wrong group again on the LONG lead-in and got shelled in the first lap. I did find a smaller group to hang with, but the problem with a small group is that riders will catch up and go past, and one or more of the group try to hook onto them, which makes the group smaller and forces you to decide whether to go with them and try to hang on, or stick with the small group. The other problem is that you REALLY need to pay attention. If you're on the back of the group and the person in front of you falls off the group, you have to respond instantly to stay with the group because if you miss it, you have to work like hell to get back on.

I was concerned that I'd feel worse than Thursday, but I felt pretty good. MAYBE I could have held on a bit longer if I had taken Thursday off, but I'm not sure. I do think, now that TdZ is over, I'll do a lighter week and then maybe do some more structure.

Regarding the 'riding fasted' thing, I have done the experiment, and I can ride 90 minutes on black coffee alone, with nothing but water to drink. But if I push it farther, I can feel blood sugar dropping, heading for a bonk.

EDIT: The conclusion applies only to me, an N of 1, so I don't claim it as a more broadly applicable result.

BillyD

Base 4

WhyFi

This is similar to what I would go through previously. I would get what I called "the shakes" (not that kind). It didn't take that long, maybe a couple months or less, but regular fasted rides at moderate effort levels allowed me to reach that 90min threshold without problem. After that, I've been able to stretch it out. ~3 hours @90% without food is the limit that I reached in 2020, but I tend to bring at least a banana or granola bar on rides of 50+ miles, just in case the tummy grumbles.

Again, N = 1 and not to be taken as advice or even a non-dumb idea.

WhyFi

It's a pivot point for cuttin' a swimmin' hole.

WhyFi

Still damn cold here, so it was trainer fun for me, too. This was, by far, the longest steady effort (60 min) that I've attempted on the trainer, and it was only made possible with distraction by listening to an audiobook. Finishing up, my ass hurts more than anything else - I forgot to get out of the saddle and give my ass a break.

genejockey 

In other news, I got a weird urge to restore my first road bike, a 1994 Cannondale R500. I bought this in late 1995, as I recall, and put a lot of miles on it before I bought the Ritchey in mid-1997. It's the 3.0 frame with the 'cantilevered' seatstays, and one of the early threadless headsets. It came with RX100 7 speed triple groupset, with downtube shifters. Along the way, I ditched the 170mm RX100 crank for a 175mm Campy 'Racing T', and added Sachs New Success brifters and rear derailleur. I no longer have the original rear wheel with its 7speed hub, and I was running an 8 speed 105 wheelset for most of its existence. BUT I still have the original front wheel.

I decided I wanted it with downtube shifters. I thought about just rebuilding it with the original triple crank and 7 speeds, but RX100 was available by that time with 8 speeds, and I really don't want a triple anymore. So I dug into it and ended up going a little wild on Ebay last night, buying old RX100 parts. I bought a 175mm 53x39 crankset and BB, front and rear derailleurs - the 8 speed ones are different from 7 speed - and a NOS rear 8 speed shifter. I still have the original brake levers and right and left shifters, but if you're doing indexed - and why wouldn't you? - the 7 speed won't work well with 8 speeds (so I have read).

Am I crazy? Yes.

MoAlpha

Did two straight hours of threshold and SS on a “75 km” fake group ride yesterday, after a 1 hr ride at 98% intensity the day before. My ass is actually getting used to it, but I find it brutal on the legs and the system. Today it will be 45 min recovery followed by leg weights if possible.

MoAlpha

Not dumb. There is no reason to eat on a ride if you don’t need to for comfort or performance. I can go at least three hours and haven’t bonked in years. I tend to eat a Clif Bar or something on anything longer.

WhyFi

2 hours = ouch on the ass, 98% = ouch on everything else. Sure you don't need to up your FTP, stud-muffin?

MoAlpha

Yeah, maybe a point or two. I’ve been ooching it up all winter, but the 20 min numbers aren’t very convincing right now.

Velo Vol 

Does that protect you if you crash?
That doesn't make any sense.
Same.

WhyFi

Maybe you've got a flatter curve than most models? You and Humbug would be on the opposite end from people with precipitous drops like me.

Edit: also, I'm envious - can't wait for the 100+ TSS and the (outdoor) saddle time that it entails.