The Golden Boy 

Duo

i got my 620 a few years ago, very cheap, it looked like nobody rode it. the tires were not too good so got replaced. the original handlebar tape was good enuf so left on. the brake hoods rotted so got replaced. comfy seat added and i liked the bar end shifters.

very nice bike, but it seems that all the better quality Classic bikes are great imho as long as they fit me.

one thing i try not to do is change parts from oem on my old bikes. if the stuff is in good enuf condition to ride, then i just ride with it. comfy seats are the exception to the rule, seems like most road bikes have very uncomfortable seats. nashbar makes a nice touring grooved road bike seat. night and day difference.

kc0yef 

which one?

The Chainstays 47cm keep my size 15 from instep and heel strike on the derailleur

The Golden Boy 

The idea is that the longer chainstays would keep your feet from striking the panniers... I don't know how monstrously huge your feet would need to be to extend to the rear far enough for your heel to strike a derailleur- even with a 41cm chainstay bike.

The added benefit is that many (including myself) feel with the added length to the wheelbase, it tends to smooth out the ride.

The Golden Boy 

I go back and forth with it- There are some old parts that are absolutely incredible quality, they have beauty, they work impeccably and they give nothing up to modern parts. There's endless reasons to be "into" C&V bikes- and if part of what your game is happens to be keeping it to OEM- that's your prerogative. However, there are many parts and philosophies that technology and experiences have made better. EVERY bike is built to a price point- things are sacrificed here and there to get them to the price point they need to be at- so the idea of changing an OEM component to something better doesn't bother me. It only bugs me when it looks really out of place- then again, it's not my bike to be bothered by...

As far as the seat thing goes- saddles are personal things- what is perfect and "disappears underneath" one person is an ass hatchet to another.

kc0yef 

12 1/8″
31.5cm


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kc0yef 

Oops I missed this post
I spent several hours cleaning it it is the original
I took pics right when I picked it up and yikes I was a little worried...but it was not ridden much at all...

kc0yef 

no one claimed it

Chr0m0ly 

I knew I saw this mentioned on the forum, and I found it! I’d be very interested to see some documentation about the tubing thickness, or just being sent in the direction to find some.
Cheers!

blart

The one kitty corner from the Eastside? Used to live in Oly... worked at LNI - VERY BRIEFLY - but loved riding my bike around that area.

beicster 

Anybody know the distance from the center of the bottom bracket to the center of the rear axle if it is all the way back in the dropout? I know the official measure if 47 cm but I am curious what the longest measure is.

RiddleOfSteel

Trek normally measures to the center of the dropout, but one should expect some variance. Why does it matter? 47cm is a considerable distance, with the angle of the dropout matching the angle of the canti-brake mounts. I would figure with the long dropouts of a 720, that anywhere from 7-10mm from the center would be applicable.

beicster 

Why does it matter? Just curiosity. I have always wondered about that with bikes that have horizontal drops. There is so much talk about chainstay length and some would have you believe that a difference of 5mm makes a difference and yet, horizontal drops offer 3-4cm adjustment.

RiddleOfSteel

Yeah those old Campagnolo dropouts had considerable adjustment. Go from "sport touring" chain stay length to full on touring spec by sliding them all the way back, and one doesn't even have to change bikes.

Cycle Tourist

If your looking for a certain size. I'm flipping these two 728's.

Lascauxcaveman 

Dang, that is one slack puppy - right up my alley. and my size/ But I promised myself I'd be approximately n-5 before I picked up another project. No room a the inn!