Smoking Commuter Cyclists
01-09-12, 03:40 PM
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Seriously: the cumulative effects of children and their potential offspring outstrip any other thing you could do for the environment.
01-09-12, 03:51 PM
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01-09-12, 03:54 PM
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The best thing you can ever do for the environment is to have one child less than planned. You can then drive the biggest car imaginable, fly around the world several times a year and generally not care for the environment for the rest of your life and still have a net benefit to the environment.
), but they stopped at just 2 kids, then everyone in the family has a lifetime pollution credit. Works for me. I feel much better now. Thanks!
01-09-12, 04:01 PM
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The planet does not need saving. The planet is fine. We humans are a deeply flawed species and we are well on our way to extinction. The planet is currently on a lose the humans campaign, and the planet will win.
Therefore I say smoke 'em if you got 'em. Enjoy every moment you have left.
Therefore I say smoke 'em if you got 'em. Enjoy every moment you have left.
01-09-12, 04:03 PM
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01-09-12, 04:20 PM
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01-09-12, 04:22 PM
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The planet does not need saving. The planet is fine. We humans are a deeply flawed species and we are well on our way to extinction. The planet is currently on a lose the humans campaign, and the planet will win.
Therefore I say smoke 'em if you got 'em. Enjoy every moment you have left.
Therefore I say smoke 'em if you got 'em. Enjoy every moment you have left.
01-09-12, 04:23 PM
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01-09-12, 04:27 PM
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Personally I work in the field of energy conservation and I have been for the last 15 years so I've had a hand in saving quite a bit of energy, much of which has been in large commercial lighting projects. As of a couple years ago I had already saved the amount my 2 kids would likely use in their lifetime.
01-09-12, 04:38 PM
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Personally I work in the field of energy conservation and I have been for the last 15 years so I've had a hand in saving quite a bit of energy, much of which has been in large commercial lighting projects. As of a couple years ago I had already saved the amount my 2 kids would likely use in their lifetime.
01-09-12, 04:44 PM
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01-09-12, 04:56 PM
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No, it was originally about "smoking" other bike commuters, as in dropping them on your ride to or from work (leaving them in your smoke a la drag racing). It somehow digressed into a discussion of the merits of smoking tobacco and other products, and even touched on some esoteric environmental issues like global warming. That about sums it up for those who don't want to read everything.
01-09-12, 05:02 PM
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This is an incredibly insufferable, intolerant, domineering and delusional view. I smoked for 15 years, and cycling helped counter-act most of the worst effects to my lungs as compared to my non-cycling friends I begin smoking with in high school. A peer group, literally and specifically speaking.
As a matter of fact it was SMOKING, yes CIGARETTES which initiated my first daily bike commuting habits: as 15 year olds, some neighbors and I needed a way to get from school to the store which sold us cigarettes back to home, and we needed the freedom to smoke in the first place.
During this period of heightened activity, I lost my spare tire, got fit for the first time in my life, and outgrew my allergies/asthma. All the hill climbing did far, far more good for me than simply not smoking & also not riding on a daily basis.
I kicked the habit, 4-5 months ago. Cycling was key: It burned off the calories from all the additional sweets I was eating, and it took my mind off of my smoking craving.
During my time as a smoking cyclist, I was faster than (most) other riders in NYC parks, I commuted farther than (most) other cyclists to work amoungst the small towns where I now live, I crested mountains and accomplished a couple centuries.
Like you, I consider my health and environment to be important. Smoker or not, cycling improved both.
Not all cyclists & non-smokers want to have anything to do with you, however, and you can count me in both groups.
01-09-12, 05:07 PM
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01-09-12, 05:11 PM
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01-09-12, 05:22 PM
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This is an incredibly insufferable, intolerant, domineering and delusional view. I smoked for 15 years, and cycling helped counter-act most of the worst effects to my lungs as compared to my non-cycling friends I begin smoking with in high school. A peer group, literally and specifically speaking.
As a matter of fact it was SMOKING, yes CIGARETTES which initiated my first daily bike commuting habits: as 15 year olds, some neighbors and I needed a way to get from school to the store which sold us cigarettes back to home, and we needed the freedom to smoke in the first place.
During this period of heightened activity, I lost my spare tire, got fit for the first time in my life, and outgrew my allergies/asthma. All the hill climbing did far, far more good for me than simply not smoking & also not riding on a daily basis.
I kicked the habit, 4-5 months ago. Cycling was key: It burned off the calories from all the additional sweets I was eating, and it took my mind off of my smoking craving.
During my time as a smoking cyclist, I was faster than (most) other riders in NYC parks, I commuted farther than (most) other cyclists to work amoungst the small towns where I now live, I crested mountains and accomplished a couple centuries.
Like you, I consider my health and environment to be important. Smoker or not, cycling improved both.
Not all cyclists & non-smokers want to have anything to do with you, however, and you can count me in both groups.
As a matter of fact it was SMOKING, yes CIGARETTES which initiated my first daily bike commuting habits: as 15 year olds, some neighbors and I needed a way to get from school to the store which sold us cigarettes back to home, and we needed the freedom to smoke in the first place.
During this period of heightened activity, I lost my spare tire, got fit for the first time in my life, and outgrew my allergies/asthma. All the hill climbing did far, far more good for me than simply not smoking & also not riding on a daily basis.
I kicked the habit, 4-5 months ago. Cycling was key: It burned off the calories from all the additional sweets I was eating, and it took my mind off of my smoking craving.
During my time as a smoking cyclist, I was faster than (most) other riders in NYC parks, I commuted farther than (most) other cyclists to work amoungst the small towns where I now live, I crested mountains and accomplished a couple centuries.
Like you, I consider my health and environment to be important. Smoker or not, cycling improved both.
Not all cyclists & non-smokers want to have anything to do with you, however, and you can count me in both groups.
Now, if you think that smoking has some type of meritous, noble, or redeemable characteristics, then I would dare say that you sir, are incredibly delusional. Furthermore, that being the case, your views are not only void of truth and scientific fact, they are also dim-witted and symptomatic of the type of ignorance that I personally find quite intolerably repugnant.
Have A Nice Day!
PS.
Thanks for quitting...
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01-09-12, 05:22 PM
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we can tell, I'm afraid if I quit smoking my my nicotine controlled tourettes will kick in and I'll lose my job.
01-09-12, 05:29 PM
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I never smoked in my life but I have nothing against people who do.
01-09-12, 05:32 PM
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The OP shouldn't project his riding goals & motivations onto people who live a different lifestyle than he does and; predicated on the logical fallacy that the act of smoking precludes any physical, environmental, or social benefits one enjoys on the individual level. The assumption of hypocrisy simply doesn't hold up to the reality of who cycles/why.
01-09-12, 05:33 PM
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01-09-12, 05:39 PM
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Your adjectives pale in the face of the stark reality of what smoking really is... To put it more simply. Smoking is just plain stupid! I think most smokers would agree with me when I say this, because that's who I hear it from for the most part.
Now, if you think that smoking has some type of meritous, noble, or redeemable characteristics, then I would dare say that you sir, are incredibly delusional. Furthermore, that being the case, your views are not only void of truth and scientific fact, they are also dim-witted and symptomatic of the type of ignorance that I personally find quite intolerably repugnant.
Have A Nice Day!
PS.
Thanks for quitting...
Now, if you think that smoking has some type of meritous, noble, or redeemable characteristics, then I would dare say that you sir, are incredibly delusional. Furthermore, that being the case, your views are not only void of truth and scientific fact, they are also dim-witted and symptomatic of the type of ignorance that I personally find quite intolerably repugnant.
Have A Nice Day!
PS.
Thanks for quitting...
This sort of sanctimony does nothing to encourage people to quit. Maybe they're actually blowing smoke in your face on purpose?