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Old 12-25-20, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by big john
Looks pretty gross, though.
Not as gross as the bottle with a bit of Cytomax I found a couple weeks after I used it.
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Originally Posted by big john
There are a lot of variations.
I mainly wondered if there was a reason behind the BMW linkage going all the way back behind the wheel.

I always thought those Girvin forks looked pretty cool, but was still riding rigid back in those days.

Surely must've been stiffer than the Lawwill forks they were loosely modeled after...

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I like gross bottles with aluminium oxide all around

Which reminds me I ran into noodlesoup on the MUP yesterday and he was aghast at how dirty my Basso was. I'm not much of a bicycle washer, just wipe the chain down occasionally and call it good
He seems like the guy who always shows up with a perfectly detailed bike, nttawwt.

I did a century in the mountains once when it rained heavily from about the 50 mile point to the end. It was raining so hard there was water sheeting on the road on hills. Lots of braking was required for a wuss like me and that thick, black aluminum slurry was all over everything, including me. It looked as if I had ridden through black mud.
BF member Rick@OCRR passed me on a descent in a full tuck with wheel spray all around. I couldn't do it, had to let him go.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I mainly wondered if there was a reason behind the BMW linkage going all the way back behind the wheel.

I always thought those Girvin forks looked pretty cool, but was still riding rigid back in those days.

Surely must've been stiffer than the Lawwill forks they were loosely modeled after...

Girvin probably took some cues from the AMP forks also.

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A friend had the AMP fork on a hardtail Litespeed. It was touted as being stiff and light (twss) but didn't have a lot of travel or damping control.

That other thing you pictured is really high on the contraption scale.
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Originally Posted by big john
He seems like the guy who always shows up with a perfectly detailed bike, nttawwt.

I did a century in the mountains once when it rained heavily from about the 50 mile point to the end. It was raining so hard there was water sheeting on the road on hills. Lots of braking was required for a wuss like me and that thick, black aluminum slurry was all over everything, including me. It looked as if I had ridden through black mud.
BF member Rick@OCRR passed me on a descent in a full tuck with wheel spray all around. I couldn't do it, had to let him go.
Riding daily in Portland meant your bike was always gritty, unless you washed it every night when you got home. Tan wall tires were only tan for a week or so after you got 'em.
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Originally Posted by big john
A friend had the AMP fork on a hardtail Litespeed. It was touted as being stiff and light (twss) but didn't have a lot of travel or damping control.

That other thing you pictured is really high on the contraption scale.
BMW is always high on the contraption scale.

There was a reason you put crime scene tape around a BMW when you were performing a reflash. Open a door during a 1+ gig reflash and you could kill the car.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
It was a Christmas present. Correct color wrong material, no receipt. I’ll use it, I am not the vain, just didn’t know it would cause damage.
That’s what I meant. Just put it on and forget it.
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Originally Posted by big john
A friend had the AMP fork on a hardtail Litespeed. It was touted as being stiff and light (twss) but didn't have a lot of travel or damping control.

That other thing you pictured is really high on the contraption scale.
The earlier versions were even funkier looking. This bike is pretty amazing, love that stem attachment for the shock and that front rotor looks like it's from the '70s Shimano disc brakes, no clue how they attached it to that hub!



Linkage MTB forks were dead for quite a while, but Trust Performance is doing new ones.

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Went out for a post-flood ride on the CX bike. Lots of debris on the roads/trail. It was barely above freezing with lots of spray, zero sun, and winds 15MPH. You know how I say real miles are better than the trainer? Today, maybe not. I am still chilled.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I like gross bottles with aluminium oxide all around

Which reminds me I ran into noodlesoup on the MUP yesterday and he was aghast at how dirty my Basso was. I'm not much of a bicycle washer, just wipe the chain down occasionally and call it good
For shame.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
There's usually no problem putting metal cages on carbon bikes, as the bottle cage boss is often metal itself. I wonder if any brands do threaded carbon bosses...
This. Carbon bosses sound like a bad idea, although good anti-seize compound prevents galvanic problems in other more critical applications.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets



Linkage MTB forks were dead for quite a while, but Trust Performance is doing new ones.
I thought I heard they went belly-up? Very expensive fork iirc.
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Uh, oh. Mrs. rjones28 is looking at cameras. Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by LAJ
BMW is always high on the contraption scale.

There was a reason you put crime scene tape around a BMW when you were performing a reflash. Open a door during a 1+ gig reflash and you could kill the car.
At Chevy we sold and serviced Aveo cars, a Daewoo product. GM eventually bought out Daewoo. Anyway we had a recall on the Aveo which was a simple ECM reflash, in and back to the customer in 15 or 20 minutes. When we first started doing them the ECM would crash, no way to bring it back and nobody had them in stock so you now have a dead car in your stall and a pissed off customer in a rental and a parts department scrambling to locate an ECM,

Naturally, like most software issues, the technician got blamed by everyone.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
A friend has one of those forks on a 3T bike. He rides road and dirt with it.
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Did a moderate-paced, 90 min group ride on Zwift this pm. Felt fine until I got off the bike and multiple muscles around my hips went into spasm. Now I can barely sit. Possibly relevant, I did some squats yesterday for the first time in a while, but noticed nothing this am. On paper the ride was nothing, about 120 TSS, but I’m sitting here in pain with the trembles and my hands going in and out of Raynauds, like I just rode 75 mi. Must be the constant go and unchanging position. Big stress available on that machine!
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Daewoo Aveo Daihatsu=Snot

Ultimate Performance Machine=Late 80's Pontiac Lemans

Only one of the above is a lie.
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Try to change the subject.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Try to change the subject.
I got "the look", when I pointed that she already has a camera in her phone.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I got "the look", when I pointed that she already has a camera in her phone.
What does she want to photograph?
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What does she want to photograph?
Bentley
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Not as gross as the bottle with a bit of Cytomax I found a couple weeks after I used it.
I used to use that. I know just what you mean.

One time I left a bottle of Gatorade in the back seat of my car. It fell on its side and leaked. I don’t drive much. The next time I checked my car there was mold growing on the seat. Fuzzy mold.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Daewoo Aveo Daihatsu=Snot

Ultimate Performance Machine=Late 80's Pontiac Lemans

Only one of the above is a lie.
I may have mentioned that I worked at a Buick/GMC/Jeep/Eagle dealer where we had Daihatsu for a couple years before they pulled all operations out of the US.
They were a lot more expensive than similar cars, hard to sell them and they made some of them into loaner/rental cars. A lady crashed one of the rentals, a 3cylinder sub-compact, and the tow truck put it next to the dumpster in service. A guy came out of the office and told us the owner of the dealer wanted us to pick it up and put it in the dumpster.
The factory denied every warranty claim we made. Every one.
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