Vintage Miyata 610 and Similar Non Top of the Line Touring Bikes Thread
12-16-23, 09:50 PM
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I posted my Raleigh Wyoming in the Vintage Touring Bike thread, but this is a better place for it.
The Wyoming was the bottom of the line touring bike in the Raleigh USA catalog in the mid-'80s, with the Portage at the top and the Kodiak and Alyeska in the middle. The frame is the same angles and 555 tubing as the others, but the fork is hi-ten and it has sidepull brakes. I bought it used off Craigslist, with a brand-new B17 as the main attraction. It also had replacement bars and Diacompe levers. I've made changes, with new derailers, Ovaltech triple, 700C wheels, brakes, barcons, fenders and racks, and SKS pedals.
The Wyoming was the bottom of the line touring bike in the Raleigh USA catalog in the mid-'80s, with the Portage at the top and the Kodiak and Alyeska in the middle. The frame is the same angles and 555 tubing as the others, but the fork is hi-ten and it has sidepull brakes. I bought it used off Craigslist, with a brand-new B17 as the main attraction. It also had replacement bars and Diacompe levers. I've made changes, with new derailers, Ovaltech triple, 700C wheels, brakes, barcons, fenders and racks, and SKS pedals.
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12-17-23, 07:08 PM
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I posted my Raleigh Wyoming in the Vintage Touring Bike thread, but this is a better place for it.
The Wyoming was the bottom of the line touring bike in the Raleigh USA catalog in the mid-'80s, with the Portage at the top and the Kodiak and Alyeska in the middle. The frame is the same angles and 555 tubing as the others, but the fork is hi-ten and it has sidepull brakes. I bought it used off Craigslist, with a brand-new B17 as the main attraction. It also had replacement bars and Diacompe levers. I've made changes, with new derailers, Ovaltech triple, 700C wheels, brakes, barcons, fenders and racks, and SKS pedals.
The Wyoming was the bottom of the line touring bike in the Raleigh USA catalog in the mid-'80s, with the Portage at the top and the Kodiak and Alyeska in the middle. The frame is the same angles and 555 tubing as the others, but the fork is hi-ten and it has sidepull brakes. I bought it used off Craigslist, with a brand-new B17 as the main attraction. It also had replacement bars and Diacompe levers. I've made changes, with new derailers, Ovaltech triple, 700C wheels, brakes, barcons, fenders and racks, and SKS pedals.
12-18-23, 05:36 AM
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1984 Univega Gran Turismo. The only things original are the frame, fork, crank, and front derailleur. Sun CR18 rims, generic sealed-bearing hubs, Suntour derailleurs, Tektro brakes and levers, Thomson seat post, Brooks Swift saddle, Nitto stem, Pasela tires.
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12-18-23, 04:52 PM
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1985 Norco Magnum GT - at this point they were supplying the bike with 700C wheels, these use Suzue sealed hubs, rear is 40 spoke although with 43 cm chain stays would lean more towards a sport touring. Purchased a pair of R.H. Barlow Pass 37mm tires ( extra light ) and as expected they offer a very comfortable yet spirited ride. Went with Nitto Noodles ( 48 cm ) and installed a Brooks B 17 Special in place of the Vetta. The original quill pedals were too narrow so replaced them with MKS Sylvan Touring.
Just waiting for some Origin8 Classique brake levers which I find very practical, would like to keep the original Dia Compe but they are just too small and do not offer much hand support and also not too good at stopping quickly from the hoods.
Also have a V.O.canti front rack on order and have a Berthoud GB28 as well as R.H. Nitto decaleur I sourced from members on the 650b Google Group. Not certain if I can fit some V.O. hammered fenders but might give it a go, there is perhaps 5mm of clearance from the top of the tires.
I really did not have buying another bike on my mind as I had three with no real room but I just liked this particular model, knew they were quite good quality and rather rare at that. On top of that it was original and in excellent condition - still has the original chain.
Just waiting for some Origin8 Classique brake levers which I find very practical, would like to keep the original Dia Compe but they are just too small and do not offer much hand support and also not too good at stopping quickly from the hoods.
Also have a V.O.canti front rack on order and have a Berthoud GB28 as well as R.H. Nitto decaleur I sourced from members on the 650b Google Group. Not certain if I can fit some V.O. hammered fenders but might give it a go, there is perhaps 5mm of clearance from the top of the tires.
I really did not have buying another bike on my mind as I had three with no real room but I just liked this particular model, knew they were quite good quality and rather rare at that. On top of that it was original and in excellent condition - still has the original chain.
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12-18-23, 05:15 PM
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Actually they are original from what I can see, very little wear on the drivetrain, fact is I probably will not ride it too much, any least for now. Nice days only. Although now modified from stock I kept the parts it had from new just in case. Finding components such as the crankset and freewheel in almost like new condition is not all that easy, unless one likes to pay a premium in most cases. I have taken to liking and appreciating that unique 3 pulley Suntour rear derailleur.
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Actually they are original from what I can see, very little wear on the drivetrain, fact is I probably will not ride it too much, any least for now. Nice days only. Although now modified from stock I kept the parts it had from new just in case. Finding components such as the crankset and freewheel in almost like new condition is not all that easy, unless one likes to pay a premium in most cases. I have taken to liking and appreciating that unique 3 pulley Suntour rear derailleur.
12-18-23, 09:30 PM
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Actually they are original from what I can see, very little wear on the drivetrain, fact is I probably will not ride it too much, any least for now. Nice days only. Although now modified from stock I kept the parts it had from new just in case. Finding components such as the crankset and freewheel in almost like new condition is not all that easy, unless one likes to pay a premium in most cases. I have taken to liking and appreciating that unique 3 pulley Suntour rear derailleur.
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12-21-23, 07:21 PM
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Not to clutter this thread but just a handful more images as I finalize the 1985 Norco. Just installed a pair of Origin8 Classique brake levers along with new brake cable housing. I gave it some though and swapped out the 48 cm Nitto Noodles for a 46 cm. Difficult to believe that the cost of those 2 handlebars is more than what I paid for the bike. I also have to admit I actually miss the look of the smaller Dia Compe brake levers and the brake cables for that vintage look but the extra hand comfort and increased braking ability makes up for it.
Bought a used Nitto stem decaleur which is on the way and will most likely pick up a Nitto M12 front canti rack tomorrow at a local bike shop. Interestingly they appear to be pretty well out of stock online but the store I called has four. Not cheap at 185 plus tax but I do like their products. Hopefully will also be able to purchase a somewhat used Berthoud GB28 front bag before too long which should have the bike completed except for possibly fenders.
I have to say that the one area where there has been some progress are the brakes, more so the levers when considering just rim brakes. The difference between the Origin8 and similar levers and the original Dia Compe is practically night and day. Except for convenience and a degree of safety ergo shifters are also great, specifically Campagnolo and I use them on a Rawland Stag 650b but still prefer the simplicity of a good friction based down tube setup, or bar cons. One day if the Campy Ergos wear I will go with bar cons.
Bought a used Nitto stem decaleur which is on the way and will most likely pick up a Nitto M12 front canti rack tomorrow at a local bike shop. Interestingly they appear to be pretty well out of stock online but the store I called has four. Not cheap at 185 plus tax but I do like their products. Hopefully will also be able to purchase a somewhat used Berthoud GB28 front bag before too long which should have the bike completed except for possibly fenders.
I have to say that the one area where there has been some progress are the brakes, more so the levers when considering just rim brakes. The difference between the Origin8 and similar levers and the original Dia Compe is practically night and day. Except for convenience and a degree of safety ergo shifters are also great, specifically Campagnolo and I use them on a Rawland Stag 650b but still prefer the simplicity of a good friction based down tube setup, or bar cons. One day if the Campy Ergos wear I will go with bar cons.
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12-22-23, 12:34 AM
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Not to clutter this thread but just a handful more images as I finalize the 1985 Norco. Just installed a pair of Origin8 Classique brake levers along with new brake cable housing. I gave it some though and swapped out the 48 cm Nitto Noodles for a 46 cm. Difficult to believe that the cost of those 2 handlebars is more than what I paid for the bike. I also have to admit I actually miss the look of the smaller Dia Compe brake levers and the brake cables for that vintage look but the extra hand comfort and increased braking ability makes up for it.
Bought a used Nitto stem decaleur which is on the way and will most likely pick up a Nitto M12 front canti rack tomorrow at a local bike shop. Interestingly they appear to be pretty well out of stock online but the store I called has four. Not cheap at 185 plus tax but I do like their products. Hopefully will also be able to purchase a somewhat used Berthoud GB28 front bag before too long which should have the bike completed except for possibly fenders.
I have to say that the one area where there has been some progress are the brakes, more so the levers when considering just rim brakes. The difference between the Origin8 and similar levers and the original Dia Compe is practically night and day. Except for convenience and a degree of safety ergo shifters are also great, specifically Campagnolo and I use them on a Rawland Stag 650b but still prefer the simplicity of a good friction based down tube setup, or bar cons. One day if the Campy Ergos wear I will go with bar cons.
Bought a used Nitto stem decaleur which is on the way and will most likely pick up a Nitto M12 front canti rack tomorrow at a local bike shop. Interestingly they appear to be pretty well out of stock online but the store I called has four. Not cheap at 185 plus tax but I do like their products. Hopefully will also be able to purchase a somewhat used Berthoud GB28 front bag before too long which should have the bike completed except for possibly fenders.
I have to say that the one area where there has been some progress are the brakes, more so the levers when considering just rim brakes. The difference between the Origin8 and similar levers and the original Dia Compe is practically night and day. Except for convenience and a degree of safety ergo shifters are also great, specifically Campagnolo and I use them on a Rawland Stag 650b but still prefer the simplicity of a good friction based down tube setup, or bar cons. One day if the Campy Ergos wear I will go with bar cons.
Regarding braking power, I’ve had improvements on mine by trying different straddle cable lengths. Typically the shorter the cable length, the better the stopping power. Yours look like they’re on the longer side so you might want to give that a try. I’ve also been slowly swapping out my vintage canti bikes to Shimano BR-MC70 brakes and those preform REALLY well. Also a bit easier to set up versus they older Dia Compe.
12-22-23, 11:48 AM
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VintageRide, your Norco is beautiful, I like the build very much.
I'm not even sure if this bike qualifies here, as it's probably more of an entry level tour-ish bike, but hey, it does say sport touring right next to the '400' decal, and does have a triple crankset. I have in mind some mods in the spirit of VintageRide's Norco. Oddly enough it has less tire clearance than the Bridgestone 450 entry level racer I also have. It's currently sporting 27x1-1/4 Paselas, but the clearance in the rear is very tight, mere millimeters on both sides so I will probably swap over to the 27x1-1/8 Paselas I have sitting around. I will say on the couple of brief rides I've done on it, it rides like a cloud with the 'fat' Paselas.
I'm not even sure if this bike qualifies here, as it's probably more of an entry level tour-ish bike, but hey, it does say sport touring right next to the '400' decal, and does have a triple crankset. I have in mind some mods in the spirit of VintageRide's Norco. Oddly enough it has less tire clearance than the Bridgestone 450 entry level racer I also have. It's currently sporting 27x1-1/4 Paselas, but the clearance in the rear is very tight, mere millimeters on both sides so I will probably swap over to the 27x1-1/8 Paselas I have sitting around. I will say on the couple of brief rides I've done on it, it rides like a cloud with the 'fat' Paselas.
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