Bike things to see/do in the DMV area
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As far as car free in Belvoir, doesn't seem that feasible to me but maybe I'm not imaginative. But since they closed Cameron Station Belvoir is the go-to commissary for NoVa.
I guess they allow bikes on the VRE rail so maybe Lorton (used to be the DC prison, now suburbs) is an option to get into DC or Metro territory. Years ago I lived in Annapolis and commuted into northern VA (Crystal City). Would drive to Stadium-Armory metro and ride from there (much cheaper to start in DC than MD). Now and then would take bike on weekend and use Pentagon North Parking and ride down to Mount Vernon and back. Not the fastest due to multi-use etc. Also cops in Old Town Alexandria will hassle you. Back then Potomac Yard was just that -- massive railyard. Also Navy Yard wasn't somewhere you wanted to hang around. I guess things are different.
Hell, I remember back then have family in Centreville and would sometimes ride out there. Ride on Braddock Rd and at the Loudoun County line it turned into gravel. Those were the days.
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If where you stay has free parking take the car. It will be close in case you need it. After 3 month you’ll retrieve it anyway. The bike and public transportation in Fairfax County has improved since I lived there but it’s not like Germany. If you more than road ride you’ll need the car. As mentioned above there are bike paths and rail trail (C&O Canal, Indian Head rail trail, Mount Vernon Trail etc). But close in they get crowded with walkers. Funny the Mount Vernon trail can get so packed I’ve just road the Mount Vernon Parkway. Of course there are signs forbidding bikes.
Sounds like you’ll settle in. But I’d keep the options.
Sounds like you’ll settle in. But I’d keep the options.
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So I got promoted am PCSing to the DMV area, in my 23 years working for the Army both in and out of uniform I've never done the DC thing and now I am. I figure since this is by a couple orders of magnitude the biggest city I've ever lived in I want to find the bike nerd stuff I always read about. While a want local places the practical reason for the question beyond sight seeing is I think I'm going to leave my car at my parents house in SW Michigan since none of the apartments I've looked at outside of Belvoir don't offer parking or offer it for rent so I'm thinking about being car free like I was in Hawaii. If you live in the area throw some car free tips, places to look at, and really anything you wish you'd known before you got there.
Northern Virginia is a suburban hellscape. I suggest a careful study of the Strava heat map and the Google maps cycling overlay and street views to make sure you can get where you want to go. The trail network is fairly dense, but not always complete or conducive to fast or relaxing riding. Personally, I hate it. I've only been to Belvoir a few times, but it seems difficult to get to by bike and living there without a car would be pretty isolating. If there are shuttles available, say from the Pentagon or other Metro stops, it might make more sense to live in the Arlington area, which has lots of cyclists and infrastructure with relatively easy cycling access to DC and MD.
Belvoir is near enough to open country for real riding, but you have to cross a lot of complete **** to get there.
As others have advised, maybe just bring the car.
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That sitting around waiting for your number to come up gets old. I do as much online as I can. On a serious note, not sure when the Fall Line Trail is supposed to be completed. When it is operational, you'll be able to get on it at Ashland and go all the way to Yorktown via the VA Cap Trail and Colonial Parkway. Hopefully, there are plans in the future to keep expanding north into the DC area.
https://www.falllineva.org/trailmaps
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I wondered if maybe that was what it stood for, but having lived in a Baltimore suburb for ~65 years (my whole life up until the last 7 or 8 years) and working in a DC suburb for 25+ years I wasn't sure since I'd never heard of that usage.
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My Vernon trail is really nice along the Potomac. It gets a lot of traffic. There is a nice paved trail along the Fairfax County Pkwy which terminates just north of Ft. Belvoir. I bet there are nice trails in Mason Neck park. Fountain Head Regional Park is known for great mountain biking trails. If you have FB, there is a Northern Va Gravel Group. They post weekly rides out in the western part of the area. Good luck with the move and the post.
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I'm an oldschool Floridian so I'm hoping to get my hot temp core back, but it's been a lot of years since I've done the 90 degrees and 95% humidity.
Fort Belvoir seems to be on a a peninsula and I've been told that there is an apartment complex to the south if you leave the gate and turn south that doesn't mean that any of those will be available or that I'll be able to get on. When I PCS'd back to the states in 2017 I tried to get a place on post but because I had no utility bills etc. the leasing company told me to pound sand. While I'm not in the exact same situation now I can't argue the fact that I've been in Germany from 2005 until now with a short stint from 2017 to 2019. I'd normally not go back but this org is new so I'd like to be able to leave my mark.
NOVA/NCR/DMV I'm not 100% sure what to call it but the Department of Motor Vehicles seems to be what the internet calls it (so I'm sticking to it) who am I to argue with "the internet"
Fort Belvoir seems to be on a a peninsula and I've been told that there is an apartment complex to the south if you leave the gate and turn south that doesn't mean that any of those will be available or that I'll be able to get on. When I PCS'd back to the states in 2017 I tried to get a place on post but because I had no utility bills etc. the leasing company told me to pound sand. While I'm not in the exact same situation now I can't argue the fact that I've been in Germany from 2005 until now with a short stint from 2017 to 2019. I'd normally not go back but this org is new so I'd like to be able to leave my mark.
NOVA/NCR/DMV I'm not 100% sure what to call it but the Department of Motor Vehicles seems to be what the internet calls it (so I'm sticking to it) who am I to argue with "the internet"
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DC Bike Party happens every 2nd Tuesday of the month. It starts at Dupont Circle at 8pm and usually draws hundreds of bikers on a predetermined route through the city that usually lasts 2-3 hours and ends at a bar. Follow them on Facebook or Instagram.
Other than that, you can bike the C&O Canal, the W&OD trail out to Virginia, or the Mt. Vernon bike path down to Mt. Vernon if you like longer rides. Haines Point draws a racing crowd at lunchtime.
Owning a car is definitely optional here, and you can get by with a Capital Bikeshare account if you don't want to own a bike. Also, the bike network has grown astronomically in the last few years. Like the majority of my trips are in protected bike lanes for 95% of the time. I'll never not be in awe of biking down the Pennsylvania Ave cycle track toward the Capitol at sunset.
Other than that, you can bike the C&O Canal, the W&OD trail out to Virginia, or the Mt. Vernon bike path down to Mt. Vernon if you like longer rides. Haines Point draws a racing crowd at lunchtime.
Owning a car is definitely optional here, and you can get by with a Capital Bikeshare account if you don't want to own a bike. Also, the bike network has grown astronomically in the last few years. Like the majority of my trips are in protected bike lanes for 95% of the time. I'll never not be in awe of biking down the Pennsylvania Ave cycle track toward the Capitol at sunset.
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I often bike the canal (old tow path) that runs from DC (Georgetown) north, past Harper's Ferry, and on up to Cumberland, MD. From there you can ride trails that cross PA to Pittsburgh.
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...you asked for stuff to see. Some of the places that nobody ever goes to (because they are relatively unknown), are the National Arboretum, (over in NE,) The Kenilworth Aquatic Gardens, (across the Anacostia, over in far SE), and by far my favorite of all the D.C. museums, the Textile museum. Thompson boat house and Fletcher's, farther up river, are both places you can rent a canoe or rowboat and enjoy the river from a different perspective. It's a great place to be a museum tourist, because many of them are free admission.
I have spent many hours wandering around the grounds and collections of pre-Columbian stuff at Dumbarton Oaks. The gardens themselves are a wonderfully designed national treasure.
And high on the list of obscure tourist attractions are the catacombs under the old Franciscan monastery, also out in far NE, near the Maryland state line.
...you asked for stuff to see. Some of the places that nobody ever goes to (because they are relatively unknown), are the National Arboretum, (over in NE,) The Kenilworth Aquatic Gardens, (across the Anacostia, over in far SE), and by far my favorite of all the D.C. museums, the Textile museum. Thompson boat house and Fletcher's, farther up river, are both places you can rent a canoe or rowboat and enjoy the river from a different perspective. It's a great place to be a museum tourist, because many of them are free admission.
I have spent many hours wandering around the grounds and collections of pre-Columbian stuff at Dumbarton Oaks. The gardens themselves are a wonderfully designed national treasure.
And high on the list of obscure tourist attractions are the catacombs under the old Franciscan monastery, also out in far NE, near the Maryland state line.
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...you asked for stuff to see. Some of the places that nobody ever goes to (because they are relatively unknown), are the National Arboretum, (over in NE,) The Kenilworth Aquatic Gardens, (across the Anacostia, over in far SE), and by far my favorite of all the D.C. museums, the Textile museum. Thompson boat house and Fletcher's, farther up river, are both places you can rent a canoe or rowboat and enjoy the river from a different perspective. It's a great place to be a museum tourist, because many of them are free admission.
I have spent many hours wandering around the grounds and collections of pre-Columbian stuff at Dumbarton Oaks. The gardens themselves are a wonderfully designed national treasure.
And high on the list of obscure tourist attractions are the catacombs under the old Franciscan monastery, also out in far NE, near the Maryland state line.
...you asked for stuff to see. Some of the places that nobody ever goes to (because they are relatively unknown), are the National Arboretum, (over in NE,) The Kenilworth Aquatic Gardens, (across the Anacostia, over in far SE), and by far my favorite of all the D.C. museums, the Textile museum. Thompson boat house and Fletcher's, farther up river, are both places you can rent a canoe or rowboat and enjoy the river from a different perspective. It's a great place to be a museum tourist, because many of them are free admission.
I have spent many hours wandering around the grounds and collections of pre-Columbian stuff at Dumbarton Oaks. The gardens themselves are a wonderfully designed national treasure.
And high on the list of obscure tourist attractions are the catacombs under the old Franciscan monastery, also out in far NE, near the Maryland state line.
Also don't miss the Island Time bar for a solid, and relatively unknown, place to get a bite to eat and a drink in the middle of a ride on the Mt Vernon trail.
The MBT (Metropolitan Branch Trail) has turned into quite the beer lover's paradise with a handful of breweries including Lost Generation.
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So I got promoted am PCSing to the DMV area, in my 23 years working for the Army both in and out of uniform I've never done the DC thing and now I am. I figure since this is by an couple orders of magnitude the biggest city I've ever lived in I want to find the bike nerd stuff I always read about. While a want local places the practical reason for the question beyond sight seeing is I think I'm going to leave my car at my parents house in SW Michigan since none of the apartments I've looked at outside of Belvoir don't offer parking or offer it for rent so I'm thinking about being car free like I was in Hawaii. If you live in the area throw some car free tips, places to look at, and really anything you wish you'd known before you got there.
Burke Lake is nice, too. A little crowded during the busiest times (weekends, etc). Just go slow and easy...
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I'm glad that was cleared up! I though the OP was talking about his job being transferred to the Dept of Motor Vehicles.
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From a former local; It would be very difficult at best, to be car-free in that area. Belvoir isn't in the District, proper, it's in Fairfax County, which is a whole nother thing. There's lots of good riding, and you could reach much of it without long transfer stages, but the Telegraph Road/ Route 1 Corridor adjacent to the Post is not particularly bike friendly. Most of NOVA aside from enclaves like Old Town Alexandria, were developed as typically car-centered suburbs in the 60s-80s, and all the public transit is designed (almost exclusively) hub-and-spoke, to get people into the City for work , so it's not super useful for getting around, unless you're going where it is
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Check out Ride with GPS app. It may be helpful. Here is around Ft Belvior. The routes some can be busy
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Man, the ratio of useful:sassy in the answers you got is... something. I hope your transition to the area goes smoothly. Fort Belvoir really is quite far from the city and nondescript. You might feel isolated and while some of your co-workers might be into bike nerding, it'll likely be mostly weekend roadie-type stuff without much variety there. You might consider living somewhere in Alexandria instead - maybe Del Ray or Shirlington? More places to ride, walkability, two bike co-ops nearby. It would be a longish bike commute to Fort Belvoir but certainly doable. SE DC also is reasonably close but not there isn't much bike infrastructure - the current ward council member feels that supporting bicycle infrastructure will lead to unwanted gentrification. Though if you can get onto Bolling I think navigating a commute from SE would be much more pleasant.
It's a wonderful place to live and bike, with ample access to mountain biking, bike camping, maker spaces, themed group rides, and everything else you could want. I hope you come to love it here!
It's a wonderful place to live and bike, with ample access to mountain biking, bike camping, maker spaces, themed group rides, and everything else you could want. I hope you come to love it here!
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Man, the ratio of useful:sassy in the answers you got is... something. I hope your transition to the area goes smoothly. Fort Belvoir really is quite far from the city and nondescript. You might feel isolated and while some of your co-workers might be into bike nerding, it'll likely be mostly weekend roadie-type stuff without much variety there. You might consider living somewhere in Alexandria instead - maybe Del Ray or Shirlington? More places to ride, walkability, two bike co-ops nearby. It would be a longish bike commute to Fort Belvoir but certainly doable. SE DC also is reasonably close but not there isn't much bike infrastructure - the current ward council member feels that supporting bicycle infrastructure will lead to unwanted gentrification. Though if you can get onto Bolling I think navigating a commute from SE would be much more pleasant.
It's a wonderful place to live and bike, with ample access to mountain biking, bike camping, maker spaces, themed group rides, and everything else you could want. I hope you come to love it here!
It's a wonderful place to live and bike, with ample access to mountain biking, bike camping, maker spaces, themed group rides, and everything else you could want. I hope you come to love it here!
When I make the move I think I just fly to my parents house, borrow one of their cars and do some recon.
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The only advantage of living in Manassas is it might be easier to park but honestly it's not particularly difficult to park in Del Ray or Shirlington. In terms of downside, I would consider if you really want to be reliant on driving around here. The unpredictability of the traffic is awful and in rush hour it can be hard to know whether a trip will take you twenty minutes or ninety if you're unlucky. And in terms of living the bike nerdery existence you've been dreaming of, I don't know that Manassas has much of that.
It is also possible to live in the city and work out there. We live in Columbia Heights/Petworth and my wife works in the Fort Belvoir North area. She doesn't bike and her commute on public transit involves a Metro transfer and then a bus from the end of the Blue line. It's not a commute that I could tolerate, but it's feasible.
EDIT: To clarify, the main advantage of living in the city is that it's much, much more fun. More house parties, more bike rides, more pretentious kids and food, more pickup basketball, more people doing weird jobs, more everything. There's some of that in Alexandria, none of that in Manassas. Another thought on commuting, you might think about slugging which is informal carpooling. Driver picks you up in order to take advantage of the HOV lanes because the traffic gridlock around here is so bad. Lots of people commuting to and from Fort Belvoir but you'll probably have more opportunities if you're coming and going from Alexandria than from Manassas.
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South East? Yeah, cause if a stray bullet doesn't get you, the ride on the Green line will. What you got against this poor guy?...
OP, the commute from Alexandria to Ft Belvoir via bike will be over an hour and probably more, and DC will add at least another 30 to 40 minutes. Bring the car.
OP, the commute from Alexandria to Ft Belvoir via bike will be over an hour and probably more, and DC will add at least another 30 to 40 minutes. Bring the car.