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Old 03-14-24, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rsbob
Other than the official name, what does UCI stand for?

Unequivocal Cycling Interference?
Useless Cycling Infrastructure?
Until Caught, Inject.
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Old 03-14-24, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by smd4
Fair enough. Sort of like me and soccer. Sorry. "Futbol."
“Soccer” is more than well established as a spectator sport, with literally billions of fans worldwide. Bicycle mechanics on the other hand…..

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Originally Posted by PeteHski
“Soccer” is more than well established as a spectator sport, with literally billions of fans worldwide. Bicycle mechanics on the other hand…..
What can I say? There's no accounting for taste.

When I say "mechanics," I mean the mechanics of bicycles--not the actual people who work on bikes.

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Old 03-14-24, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
My point remains, is it fair that some guy "breaks" the record on an aero CF bike. It seems to me totally unfair to the old record holder on his round tube frame.

Therefore they are being inconsistent.
You have posted many times that you are old, so it should be no surprise to you that for decades athletic records have been set, fallen, or stayed due to rule adjustments.

Some obvious rule and procedure changes that impact records- making some basically unbreakable and others easily broken...
- shot clock in basketball
- 3pt line in basketball
- 3pt line distance changing in basketball
- widening the lane in basketball
- no dunking in basketball
- # of NFL games played
- NFL contact rules
- MLB complete games pitched
- NBA salary cap rules impact dynasty chances(Celtics 8 straight)
- Ripken consecutive games played streak
- 5th year eligibility by NCAA for covid year- that alone shatters countless collegiate records across all sports


You can suddenly cry that the UCI is being inconsistent because they allow technology to be used that didnt exist 40-100 years ago, but you are basing that judgement on a false sense because there is no expectation for a sport's governing body to never allow change in equipment or other parameters that impact set records.
What I find really funny about this thread and your poutrage is that is seems so sudden. All I have ever seen from you is criticism of diamond frame bikes, criticism of those who try to ride fast, and criticism of those who compete. I would think, given your extensive commentary, that you would not be interested in professional cycling. As such, you wouldnt care what the UCI does or doesnt do.
Yet here you are, apparently all worked up over the UCI allowing shaped carbon frames. You are decades late on this poutrage too, but that tracks for you
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What really sucks is the French race never allowed English 3 speeds. The record for LEJOG with SA was 44 1/2 hours.
Then there's Futbol that was invented before clocks, maybe they used hour glass timers. LOL. They still refuse proper stop time, even for goooaalll celebrations or injury ACTING, that's as bad as wrestling. LOL.
Golf used to have wooden clubs. LOL.
Babe Ruth pitched a 21 inning game once I think,14 in a World Series game.

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Old 03-14-24, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
Then there's Futbol that was invented before clocks,
Maybe not.
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Old 03-14-24, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by zymphad
It's already been in news some pros are paid to rid[e] gear that is proven to be slower, but if they win using it they will be awarded bonus. What more proof does one need to know why UCI and Pro Cycling exists?
How about a link to such a news story? Because this "pros ride gear proven to be slower" story sounds like bunk.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
You're going to say "pie-eating contests." I'll give you that one.
I don't think you should be able to eat the hot dog and bun separatelly, let alone dunking the bread in water...
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Old 03-14-24, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by smd4
What can I say? There's no accounting for taste.
This is certainly true.
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Old 03-14-24, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
What really sucks is the French race never allowed English 3 speeds. The record for LEJOG with SA was 44 1/2 hours.
SA hubs have been used in the TdF, and the LEJOG record is currently held by a derailleur bike. Either the conspiracy is utterly massive... or derailleurs are simply better for the job.
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Old 03-14-24, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smd4
What can I say? There's no accounting for taste.
Originally Posted by PeteHski
This is certainly true.
But there IS Accounting For Dummies...

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Old 03-14-24, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
But there IS Accounting For Dummies...

My wife just became a CPA...
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Old 03-14-24, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by smd4
My wife just became a CPA...
So she can account for you, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Can you name any major sport where equipment rules have remained unchanged since the 1920s? Motor sports? Yacht racing?

You're going to say "pie-eating contests." I'll give you that one.
Yacht racing's an odd case, since there are classes specifically dedicated to old boats and designs.

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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Yacht racing's an odd case, since there are classes specifically dedicated to old boats and designs.
Same with motor racing.
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Same with motor racing.
UCI has the hour record using a bike like Mercx used, then the Best Human Effort which allows technological advances.
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And then there are anachronisms, like the J Class (design rule established 1903) with composite hulls and carbon rigs and sails.


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To say I am all worked up is not stating fact. I in fact like all forms of cycling from little Susie on her bike with training wheels, to world pro cycling. I for instance have many tapes from back in the 80s of the Tour.

Again what I am saying is that the UCI holds itself as the absolute governing body to keep records intact. Im just stating that new aero CF bikes are cheating the old guys that set records on round tube bikes.

It wouldnt surprise me that the CF bike mfg leaned on the UCI to make aero CF bikes legal, since they can make tons more money on them. And who knows what the mfg might be doing wigh their money to make those CF bikes legal. It smells to high heaven like back in the 30s bike mfg with tons of tooling for DF frames leaned on the UCI to declare recumbent frame bikes, not a real bike, so they would not have to buy more tooling. Again, did money change hands. Money always talks the loudest.
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Which records are you actually talking about?
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Originally Posted by rydabent
It smells to high heaven like back in the 30s bike mfg with tons of tooling for DF frames leaned on the UCI to declare recumbent frame bikes, not a real bike, so they would not have to buy more tooling.
I can’t believe you were patient enough to wait this long to state the real reason you started this thread. But, your true motive wasn’t disguised very well — you gave it away when you chose the year 1920 for your absurd argument.
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Old 03-14-24, 04:25 PM
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All I can think of is the hour record, but don't they have a Merckx-rule hour record still? Okay, just did a search, they got rid of it.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
I can’t believe you were patient enough to wait this long to state the real reason you started this thread. But, your true motive wasn’t disguised very well — you gave it away when you chose the year 1920 for your absurd argument.
He was given a time out for such behavior previously. Now he's back and trying to figure out what he can get away with.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
To say I am all worked up is not stating fact. I in fact like all forms of cycling from little Susie on her bike with training wheels, to world pro cycling. I for instance have many tapes from back in the 80s of the Tour.

Again what I am saying is that the UCI holds itself as the absolute governing body to keep records intact. Im just stating that new aero CF bikes are cheating the old guys that set records on round tube bikes.

It wouldnt surprise me that the CF bike mfg leaned on the UCI to make aero CF bikes legal, since they can make tons more money on them. And who knows what the mfg might be doing wigh their money to make those CF bikes legal. It smells to high heaven like back in the 30s bike mfg with tons of tooling for DF frames leaned on the UCI to declare recumbent frame bikes, not a real bike, so they would not have to buy more tooling. Again, did money change hands. Money always talks the loudest.
Sometimes only an emoji will do! One knew, of course, that this silly hobby-horse/'conspiracy' obsession of yours was behind this thread, but kudos for finally bringing it out into the open.
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Originally Posted by badger1
Sometimes only an emoji will do! One knew, of course, that this silly hobby-horse/'conspiracy' obsession of yours was behind this thread, but kudos for finally bringing it out into the open.
Yep, it was just a matter of time before it came out. Fish gotta swim …
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Can you name any major sport where equipment rules have remained unchanged since the 1920s? Motor sports? Yacht racing?

You're going to say "pie-eating contests." I'll give you that one.
100yd dash?
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