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Old 02-27-20, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I have found Nissan drivers are the overall most aggressive on the road. This is years of data collection, unscientific methods of tabulation.
Lol I have found Kia drivers to be the most clueless.
Apologies to any of you who drive a Kia. Present company excepted, as always.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I still use my first pair of LG road shoes I bought with my first road bike in 2012. My Bontrager mountain bike shoes I've been using since 2016. A couple years ago I found an additional set of Shimano high-top MTB shoes at Goodwill.

I don't particularly like any of them, but don't hate them either.

The road shoes will likely be phased out after my eventual plan to convert most of my bikes to SPD.
My current shoes, some CF-soled Specialized jobbers, are also 7 or 8 years old. Some years they're fine, but more often than not I get some discomfort during rides more than a hour or so long (and I very rarely ride less than an hour) and then I need to take time to clench/unclench toes to get things back to operational. I figure that 7 or 8 years is long enough to deal with that noise.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Will work fine but possibly more noisy than pure Shimano.
So long as it's quieter than what I've got now I'll be happy.

I've cobbled together a cassette and chain of unknown mileage with a derailleur from the mid-80s. It's noisy enough that I would be embarrassed to ride with anyone else.

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Is there a significant price and/or weight difference? I think that 105 cassettes and Ultegra-level chains are pretty reasonable.
Weight I really didn't care about, but what I really wanted was a 12-28 cluster since I spend all of my time in the big* ring and middle of the cassette. I only found that with the PG1070. So since I got a SRAM cassette I figured it would be best to go with a SRAM chain as well.

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Originally Posted by Cypress
I had coal rolled on me by a Ram last night. I dabbed in appreciation.
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As I think about it, if anyone started to get fussed that I was habitually late, I’d just declare my new start time to be 8:15. Haha I could tell me boss it was 8:15 all along and he’d be a little confused but in the end just think he had it wrong in his head.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
So long as it's quieter than what I've got now I'll be happy.

I've cobbled together a cassette and chain of unknown mileage with a derailleur from the mid-80s. It's noisy enough that I would be embarrassed to ride with anyone else.



Weight I really didn't care about, but what I really wanted was a 12-28 cluster since I spend all of my time in the big* ring and middle of the cassette. I only found that with the PG1070. So since I got a SRAM cassette I figured it would be best to go with a SRAM chain as well.

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My Ultegra chain knows no difference between my Sram or Ultegra cassettes. Nor does a KMC or Connex.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Tax refund hit my bank account today, so the 10 speed upgrade to my Trek is finally happening this weekend

I had been waiting on picking up a new chain and cassette.

Is it heretical to run Dura-Ace shifters and derailleurs to shift a SRAM cassette and chain?


I'm running a Sram Force cassette on a Shimano/DTSwiss freehub with my Campagnolo Record shifters and RD. 'Cause 11 speed don't care.

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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I am a fan of metal shelving and tool boards. There are some good looking and not too expensive options.


Urban workshop
Hmmmm. Okay. It's a long bench, 8', and I've got about 40" height to work with, so lots of real estate. Maybe something like that in the middle (I don't have too many small tools) and some kind of tills for hand saws/planes on either side... Then again, this is going to be where I'm using a bench-top drill press and router table, so maybe I want to keep the first 24" or so of airspace relatively open along the entire length.
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And a KMC chain.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
There are diesels that smoke whenever accelerated because there is something wrong, like leaking injectors, etc., and there are diesels that smoke because the driver has performed a modification to cause it to smoke on demand, such as causing the turbo to overboost. Imagine the thinking of a person who would do this.
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Originally Posted by rjones28


I'm running a Sram Force cassette on a Shimano/DTSwiss freehub with my Campagnolo Record shifters and RD. 'Cause 11 speed don't care.

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And a KMC chain.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Asshats.

I hope they got a nice citation about their out-of-spec exhaust?
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Always a pleasure. Tonight, I get the TT bike on the trainer. It's never comfortable, and an hour and a half at 71% is like a vacation, except... TT bike.
I have defaulted to just doing all trainer workouts on the TT bike, that just seems so normal to me now. They’re usually pretty short, in the 60-90 min range.

Yesterday, I did 3 x 10@ 110%. Boo yah, that was hard but the whole time I knew I was gonna get it done.

Today was “easier” or so I thought. 1 x 20@ 105% but right when I got started my quads were like WTF, no. It was a struggle at first but in the end I got it done. For me, threshold efforts frequently get easier around 5-7 min in, I assume some kind of lactate processing metabolic system kicks in for me around that time.

Anyway it was funny- first the shock, then despair, then hope, then accomplishment. A microcosm of life, all in a single 20 min interval, lol.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Weight I really didn't care about, but what I really wanted was a 12-28 cluster since I spend all of my time in the big* ring and middle of the cassette. I only found that with the PG1070. So since I got a SRAM cassette I figured it would be best to go with a SRAM chain as well.

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Oh, okay. I understand about being particular in your cassette choice (I really like my 12-25 [11-speed]).
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Originally Posted by big john
There are diesels that smoke whenever accelerated because there is something wrong, like leaking injectors, etc., and there are diesels that smoke because the driver has performed a modification to cause it to smoke on demand, such as causing the turbo to overboost. Imagine the thinking of a person who would do this.
Definitely chipped. Single cell organism's that drive coalburners have their own little section of hell.

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Asshats.

I hope they got a nice citation about their out-of-spec exhaust?
I would have had the diesel guys on his can in a second, had I been able to see a plate number.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Anyway it was funny- first the shock, then despair, then hope, then accomplishment. A microcosm of life, all in a single 20 min interval, lol.
My first in-earnest interval of a session always makes me think, "wtf - maybe this isn't a good idea."
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Oh yeah. I have 105 11speed on my old Schwinn, paired with a Campy Chorus cassette.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I would have had the diesel guys on his can in a second, had I been able to see a plate number.
Damn. No rear camera? Or are front plates not required in CO?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Asshats.

I hope they got a nice citation about their out-of-spec exhaust?
If they do modifications to intentionally cause the smoke they can turn it on or off, depending on when they want to assault someone. Modern diesels don't smoke at all, unless something is wrong or some sadistic bastard has modified things.
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Originally Posted by big john
If they do modifications to intentionally cause the smoke they can turn it on or off, depending on when they want to assault someone. Modern diesels don't smoke at all, unless something is wrong or some sadistic bastard has modified things.
Oh, I know about these coal-rollin' jackholes. Don't see them too much in MN, fortunately.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
I have defaulted to just doing all trainer workouts on the TT bike, that just seems so normal to me now. They’re usually pretty short, in the 60-90 min range.

Yesterday, I did 3 x 10@ 110%. Boo yah, that was hard but the whole time I knew I was gonna get it done.

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Anyway it was funny- first the shock, then despair, then hope, then accomplishment. A microcosm of life, all in a single 20 min interval, lol.
I find the TT bike very uncomfortable on the trainer, for some reason. Outside, I can swing it, but I guess I just have too much time in my head to think of things.

Yep. Once can see a short lifetime in a 20 minute graphical representation of bicycle metrics.
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Damn. No rear camera? Or are front plates not required in CO?
No rear camera at that time.
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Hmmmm. Okay. It's a long bench, 8', and I've got about 40" height to work with, so lots of real estate. Maybe something like that in the middle (I don't have too many small tools) and some kind of tills for hand saws/planes on either side... Then again, this is going to be where I'm using a bench-top drill press and router table, so maybe I want to keep the first 24" or so of airspace relatively open along the entire length.
Sounds like you'll need lots of room.


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Oh, I know about these coal-rollin' jackholes. Don't see them too much in MN, fortunately.
Get a sense of humor, snowflake!
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State of the shop: boring but helpful ultility bench almost done but I'm undecided on the back. I've got a frame extending to the first floor joists, but don't know what I want to put on there. Pegboard to hang tools? Slat board for lightweight shelving? Just some plywood so that I can hang whatever I want off of it (maybe some French cleats?)

I should prolly do some image searches for inspiration.
work with it for a while, itll become apparent what you need to put there.
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