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Old 10-06-20, 10:58 AM
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My kind of road. Not one man made sound. Not even airplanes. Just birds, insects and the rustling of the grasses thanks to a nice breeze.

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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I had to finish off the first one with my foot. Thought someone was breaking into the house. My metal Specialized floor pump even got knocked over during the chase. The second was already dead when I found him. Looked to have been dead a while. Days. Cat must have been using him as a toy then left him at the bottom of the stairs.



A sure sign of fall, right?
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One who I imagined would be shortly freezing his ass off descending the Blue Ridge Parkway in 45° temps.
Winter has arrived.

Originally Posted by indyfabz
I had to finish off the first one with my foot.
Glorification of violence. WHERE ARE THE MODERATORS??!!!??!?
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Fixed.

I always think they're getting a whiskey delivery at the Brown Squirrel, then realize they spelled it wrong.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
My kind of road. Not one man made sound. Not even airplanes. Just birds, insects and the rustling of the grasses thanks to a nice breeze.

That's pretty much the ideal road.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
That's pretty much the ideal road.
I don't agree. It's gravel. I don't have a gravel bike so no bueno for me.
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I don't agree. It's gravel.
Thank you for pointing out what should have been painfully obvious to everyone.
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A sure sign of fall, right?
Yeah. That second photo is from late October of last year. We have them in the alley. Stephen looks for them through the gate of the back deck. My next door neighbor has seen them running around in their back during broad daylight, and I have seen the same while walking by the alley entrance. The should be trying to move inside about now.

Still, it's way better than when we had the hoarder living next door. My previous cat caught or tried to catch at least 10 that we knew of. One afternoon while we were napping in bed he caught one upstairs and started to walk towards the bedroom with. We could see its tail hanging out of its mouth. He dropped it and it got away. I caught several more in traps. But the worst was sitting in bed and hearing things (possibly rats) scamper around inside the bedroom walls and ceiling. The workers who cleaned out the hoarder's house after she sold it told us they found rats' nests in the basement. They spent at least 3 days removing junk from her house. It filled at least 4 of those large C&D dumpsters. I'm not talking demolition debris. I am talking simply personal property that she had collected over the years. The workers said it was piled up the joists in the basement with only little walkways to move around.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I don't agree. It's gravel. I don't have a gravel bike so no bueno for me.
That 27 miles of road is everything, from sand to gravel to dirt washboards to even a few short sections of bare rock. And there are hills in places, some of them steep. And free range cattle on the part that passes through BLM grazing land. During my three trips over that road I have seen maybe 7 or 8 vehicles total.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
That's pretty much the ideal road.
Needz moar trees (I have Anglo-Celtic phosphorescent white skin - 20 minutes in the sun without sunscreen and it starts to bubble and smoke like Christopher Lee at the end of a Dracula film)

Also, asphalt.
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Any thoughts on modern road levers on vintage bend bars?

Like bottom of the drops parallel to the road and the "ramps" angled down 30°ish.

Would anything be really weird ergonomically, do you think? These bars:


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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Thank you for pointing out what should have been painfully obvious to everyone.
Always happy to pitch in.
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Any thoughts on modern road levers on vintage bend bars?

Like bottom of the drops parallel to the road and the "ramps" angled down 30°-40°
Just thinking about this is hurting my back and shoulders.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Just thinking about this is hurting my back and shoulders.
I think my mental protractor needs calibration.

I edited the post for clarity.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Any thoughts on modern road levers on vintage bend bars?

Like bottom of the drops parallel to the road and the "ramps" angled down 30°-40°
The mix may require a compromise, rather than going by the old "rules" you may need to adjust for comfort. But I suspect it can work ok.

edit: I just saw the added picture. Probably need to rotate bars up a smidge, like 15 degrees.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I think my mental protractor needs calibration.

I edited the post for clarity.
Oy, my neck, my wrists, my rectus superior rectus muscles!

Sorry.
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Originally Posted by datlas
The mix may require a compromise, rather than going by the old "rules" you may need to adjust for comfort. But I suspect it can work ok.

edit: I just saw the added picture. Probably need to rotate bars up a smidge, like 15 degrees.
Kind of what I figured. I'd love to avoid having to buy new bars but I've gotten very used to having level drops over the last few years.

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Oy, my neck, my wrists, my rectus superior rectus muscles!

Sorry.
The stem may have come up a few tens of millimeters since this picture was taken
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Kind of what I figured. I'd love to avoid having to buy new bars but I've gotten very used to having level drops over the last few years.
Try rotating them so the line of drops goes not level but will bisect the seat-stays at the midpoint. That might be only 10 degrees of rotation and may be a fair compromise. But ultimately your choice should be based on fit/comfort, not aesthetics.
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Sometimes there are rocks in the road.

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Try rotating them so the line of drops goes not level but will bisect the seat-stays at the midpoint. That might be only 10 degrees of rotation and may be a fair compromise. But ultimately your choice should be based on fit/comfort, not aesthetics.
I guess I'm being a little vague. Apologies.

I still haven't installed the 5700 stuff that Bah Humbug sent me but I'd really like to soon. At the moment I'm happy with the fit of the bike and the overall feel of these bars and the Campy levers, but the 5700 levers are definitely from a different era and I'm trying to figure out if putting them on these bars would be way too weird.
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Got into SYR later than I thought. Hotel gym is closed, Restaurant is closed. I was going to walk to A cycle shop, Advanced Cycling, but I think I’m just going to have an early dinner and get to bed early. In watertown tomorrow afternoon.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
The stem may have come up a few tens of millimeters since this picture was taken
It's not so much the stem height. I am quite comfy on this:




It's the ramp and lever placement on those bars! I rode on things like that for 20 yrs and I am so done.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
It's not so much the stem height. I am quite comfy on this:




It's the ramp and lever placement on those bars! I rode on things like that for 20 yrs and I am so done.
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Thank you for pointing out what should have been painfully obvious to everyone.
What IS painfully obvious is that it's a misnomer, as there's not a speck of gravel on that road.
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Got into SYR later than I thought. Hotel gym is closed, Restaurant is closed. I was going to walk to A cycle shop, Advanced Cycling, but I think I’m just going to have an early dinner and get to bed early. In watertown tomorrow afternoon.
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