love my super six.... but is there a better ride for similar dollar
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love my super six.... but is there a better ride for similar dollar
I recently wrecked my bike. Held up in injury and "looking" at bike replacement options
Love my 2012 team color super six with SRAM and different wheels over the time. So obviously another cdale would be on top of the list. Since the super six was replaced by the evo line up, there are plenty options in the 3k range.
I do some crit races but not much, mostly a club rider and put in 130-160miles a week with 2 x CAM. So the bike must be comfy for them 5-6 hr rides (moving time)
Since I can't ride anything right now with my injuries I'm going by aesthetics and what would fit me the best. 565-575 ett and ht length of 160. I have long arms and like to get down low. My old ss was a 58 with a slammed 110. I'd like to get lower. Was thinking of getting the zipp sprinter stem in 120 and -12*, then the bike got totaled.
Super six evo ult di2 in 56
Spesh venge with ultegra in 56
Masi evoluzione
Focus izalco
Any other fast century bikes out there with short head tubes? Friend is trying to talk me into a project one trek domane classic, but 5500 with force 22 and cheap wheels is hard to swallow.
Love my 2012 team color super six with SRAM and different wheels over the time. So obviously another cdale would be on top of the list. Since the super six was replaced by the evo line up, there are plenty options in the 3k range.
I do some crit races but not much, mostly a club rider and put in 130-160miles a week with 2 x CAM. So the bike must be comfy for them 5-6 hr rides (moving time)
Since I can't ride anything right now with my injuries I'm going by aesthetics and what would fit me the best. 565-575 ett and ht length of 160. I have long arms and like to get down low. My old ss was a 58 with a slammed 110. I'd like to get lower. Was thinking of getting the zipp sprinter stem in 120 and -12*, then the bike got totaled.
Super six evo ult di2 in 56
Spesh venge with ultegra in 56
Masi evoluzione
Focus izalco
Any other fast century bikes out there with short head tubes? Friend is trying to talk me into a project one trek domane classic, but 5500 with force 22 and cheap wheels is hard to swallow.
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What does "better ride" mean to you?
Better fit? More road buzz dampening? More aggressive? Less drag?
Was the SSX lacking in a particular quality?
Better fit? More road buzz dampening? More aggressive? Less drag?
Was the SSX lacking in a particular quality?
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Realistically, unless you get a great deal on a closeout or used bike, you're not going to get anything appreciably better for the same money.
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What is broken on the SuperSix currently...
I just crashed and wrecked my 2011 SuperSix and was able to repair the toptube for 180 bucks and its back to normal..
And it is still better and cheaper than having to replace an entire bike..
I know the new bike itch is there because all you can do is sit around and look at parts :-) I was laid up for a month and haven't ridden for three..
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I just crashed and wrecked my 2011 SuperSix and was able to repair the toptube for 180 bucks and its back to normal..
And it is still better and cheaper than having to replace an entire bike..
I know the new bike itch is there because all you can do is sit around and look at parts :-) I was laid up for a month and haven't ridden for three..
~Steven
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Head tube lengths (54cm frame):
Domane Classics Edition: 10.3cm
Madone H1: 12.5cm
Evo: 14cm
It's definitely not your typical Domane...
Last edited by Nebby10; 04-25-14 at 02:02 PM. Reason: looked up actual head tube lengths
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I did not know that. Sounds like true pro geometry. Their H1 geometry is already very aggressive.
The other thing about the Domane is the ride. It's quite a bit less lively than the other bikes listed. I test rode a 6 series P1 Domane for 30-40 minutes.
The other thing about the Domane is the ride. It's quite a bit less lively than the other bikes listed. I test rode a 6 series P1 Domane for 30-40 minutes.
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I love the idea of the "classics edition" Trek, but it's too bad they priced it out of reach for anyone who can't afford a Ferrari.
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If I recall, you can usually pick up a last-year's-model supersix with 105 for about $1500 or $1600, which means the odds of finding a complete bike that rides as well for less is EXTREMELY slim. (going on previous statements that you like the bike).
Depending on the state of the components, you could always look into a crash replacement for the frame and transfer the working components over & upgrade the remainder. Given your cache of wheels, an upgrade to 11 speed probably isn't the best plan either.
You could also search out a used SS frame on fleabay. I know people don't like to do that but it is an option (again, assuming you can transfer over some or all of your components)
Which bikes does your favorite local shop sell? I bet you could arrange for some extended test rides while you make up your mind. And do let me know if you need any spares, I have just about a full force group laying around (sans shifters) and a couple frames. Actually, except for shifters, I think I have enough spares on hand for a full spare bike. I should really build that thing up.
Depending on the state of the components, you could always look into a crash replacement for the frame and transfer the working components over & upgrade the remainder. Given your cache of wheels, an upgrade to 11 speed probably isn't the best plan either.
You could also search out a used SS frame on fleabay. I know people don't like to do that but it is an option (again, assuming you can transfer over some or all of your components)
Which bikes does your favorite local shop sell? I bet you could arrange for some extended test rides while you make up your mind. And do let me know if you need any spares, I have just about a full force group laying around (sans shifters) and a couple frames. Actually, except for shifters, I think I have enough spares on hand for a full spare bike. I should really build that thing up.
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I had to replace the bike after a crash recently and was able to find a great deal on a 2013 leftover. See what's out there locally in your size and meets your price point with your preferred components. Some shops can also locate and ship bikes in if you get it narrowed down and they can find it. Keep your options open. I was going to pull the trigger on a Focus Izalco, but it sold before I was ready. Ended up going with a Giant TCR Advanced SL. There's plenty of great bikes out there. If your components are still in good shape, I'd look into replacing the frame, especially if they have a crash replacement discount available.
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Very nice bike. I love that Blue color!
The Classics Edition is literally the same frame that the pro's use, the geometry is changed fairly significantly compared to a standard Domane. I just got mine this week and I'll be taking it out for a 50mi spin on Sat then a climbing ride on Sun, we'll see how it fares
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My main lbs is bike bling. They have cervelo, spesh, focus, pinns ( fp due and similar) plus dogma frameset, colnago framesets. I think the dogma and other 5k framesets build are not going to happen.
Club Shop sponsored is carbon connections, they have focus and masi and mid teir colnago complete along with bikes I can only dream of riding.
Trek superstore does the treks of off the rack kind and project one builds. And they also sell Cannondales. That's where I got my supersix.
What I didn't like about the supersix could be solved with a frame size smaller. But if I can have the same 575 ett but shorter ht length would be the best way. As I got faster and more in shape, I wanted it to fit more aggressive. Overall road damping is done by the wheels and rubber selection I have in my library, moving to 11speed might be an option, id just have to sell all my wheelsets. With hope to get one or two nice ones.Stiffness and sprinting under short power burst was awesome and would expect the same from my next bike.
I would like to try / test ride ultegra di2, otherwise id stick with sram.
Club Shop sponsored is carbon connections, they have focus and masi and mid teir colnago complete along with bikes I can only dream of riding.
Trek superstore does the treks of off the rack kind and project one builds. And they also sell Cannondales. That's where I got my supersix.
What I didn't like about the supersix could be solved with a frame size smaller. But if I can have the same 575 ett but shorter ht length would be the best way. As I got faster and more in shape, I wanted it to fit more aggressive. Overall road damping is done by the wheels and rubber selection I have in my library, moving to 11speed might be an option, id just have to sell all my wheelsets. With hope to get one or two nice ones.Stiffness and sprinting under short power burst was awesome and would expect the same from my next bike.
I would like to try / test ride ultegra di2, otherwise id stick with sram.
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OP: sorry for going off topic, honestly I'd say if you were comfortable with the supersix I'd stick with that.
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The venge would be up there on the list cuz I love the lines but comes with mechanical ultegra for 3300 or 3900 for the expert. And the wheels would have to be donated to craigslist. Couple guys in my club ride them and love them. I dont know how it would ride with a couple centuries a month though. I am open for trying/ looking at something other then an evo
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The geometry on the Domane Classics Edition is quite aggressive, it has an even shorter head tube than the H1 Madone. In fact, it's head tube is actually nearly 4 cm shorter than my Evo!
Head tube lengths (54cm frame):
Domane Classics Edition: 10.3cm
Madone H1: 12.5cm
Evo: 14cm
It's definitely not your typical Domane...
Head tube lengths (54cm frame):
Domane Classics Edition: 10.3cm
Madone H1: 12.5cm
Evo: 14cm
It's definitely not your typical Domane...
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You did fully slam the stem on the old SuperSix? This would mean also replacing the stock headset cover with something shorter. Just checking, because the cone spacer that comes stock on Cannondale is quite tall.
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You did fully slam the stem on the old SuperSix? This would mean also replacing the stock headset cover with something shorter. Just checking, because the cone spacer that comes stock on Cannondale is quite tall.
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I think you should go with cannondale again. if your bike was crashed by the fault of someone else ask for cash/check from the other party.
You could come out with a nice evo, especially if the insurance company hands over a check for all your replacement parts (stem/post/wheels/etc) and you buy a replacement bike from cannondale through their program (usually a stackable 25% off) and have a bigger chunk of change for other parts that were better than previous ones.
Otherwise, I would go w/custom based on the ss if that's what you like and want a better ride/fit
You could come out with a nice evo, especially if the insurance company hands over a check for all your replacement parts (stem/post/wheels/etc) and you buy a replacement bike from cannondale through their program (usually a stackable 25% off) and have a bigger chunk of change for other parts that were better than previous ones.
Otherwise, I would go w/custom based on the ss if that's what you like and want a better ride/fit
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My 2011 Supersix-1 frame cracked after a crash last fall. I ended up picking up a 2014 Supersix Evo-5 with 105 for $1750 out the door. Swapped all the D/A components and Ksyriums over to the new frame.
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