Biketouringhobo

Would you use a Touring Bicycle for Survival Transport to haul your Camping gear to your Stealth Camping Spot to Survive???

???it if you came Homeless not by Choice: to Survive living in your Tent and doing Stealth Camping in a very good spot. and if you also came Homeless by Choice: to Survive living in your Tent.??? and NOTE: Homeless by Choice and Homeless not by Choice is not a Bloody VACATION and most bike tourist I know on Facebook are Homeless by Choice...



My Foo:on 6-1991 I lost my Job as a Security Officer in the Pocono Mtns in Pennsylvania and I use on Unemployment from PA and by 11-1991 I moved to Tampa, FL to look to work and I came Homeless not by Choice from 12-1991 to 2-1993 and I came down sick with Schizoaffective and I moved back to Scranton, PA and by 6-1993 I seen a Doctor said I have ADHD/Schizoaffactive and on 10-1994 I got my SSDI and SSI from US Gov to live on and by 3-1995 I was so sick of Snow that made me move to San Diego, California to live..
and when I was 1st Homeless not by Choice I dreamed of using a Touring Bicycle to haul my Sleeping gear to and from Camp!!!... and 2nd time Homeless not by Choice was in 10-1996 in San Diego, CA I would Rent a Room 4 Rent in a SRO=Single Room Occupancy for 2weeks and living on the Streets 2weeks with no Tent, Sleeping Bag, Sleeping Pad!!! and on 4-1998
I gone 100% Homeless by Choice using a Mtn Bike and BOB Trailer to Transport my Camping Gear: Tent, Sleeping Bag, Sleeping Pad!!!... and I got a Job in the Carnival Games from 4-2005 to 8-2011 and from 8-2007 to 4-2009 I did not work carnival games and now I did Schizophrenia Research doing a Medicines studys for pay to my Surly LHT 26in 52cm 2008 and gear and my MOM sent me $1500.00 to got my Bike and in 2012 I did a Schizophrenia Research doing a medicine study for pay! and in 5-2013 my mom Sold her Condo in Myrtle Beach, SC and she give me half of the money by $500.00 a month for 5-2013 to 12-2015
and she live in a Apt now..

I am Only Bike Touring in Southern California, Northern California and Arizona


gear I killed over time!
3 Tents
4 Sleeping bags
4 Sleeping pads
1 bike I sold
1 laptops 15in sold
3 Netbooks 11.6in harddrive crashed
4 Prepaid Smartphones

Note: Please do not Troll me!!

PS. Let's see you try to live on $953.50 from SSDI and SSI
and I am here to learn from you!!

saddlesores

yes.

this being a bicycle forum, and specifically touring sub-forum, i would guess
just about everyone here would use a touring bike for survival transport.

antokelly

using a good quality touring bike would make a lot of sense easy to pack up your gear (home) and move on ,if you were homeless on the streets you would not have that choice.
if your healt and money situation is ok then no better lifestyle if u ask me.
no kids no wife no house to worry about, mind u all those things are good but not for everyone. i wish u well stay safe and keep the faith.

MassiveD

If you look at military bikes they are pretty much super rugged touring bikes.

Jseis 

Survival "road" conditions would dictate a gravel grinder or adventure bike. Hurky, tough.

Biketouringhobo

my Surly LHT 26in 2008

MassiveD

Pretty Yuppie.

Biketouringhobo

I am not a YUPPIE!

What do you mean by using Pretty Yuppie?

you Should call someone a YUPPIE!


Biketouringhobo

Buffalo Buff

per month or per year?

antokelly

have u still got the same set up?

Biketouringhobo

$953.40 pair month

Biketouringhobo

Please Don't Jadge me tell you walk a mile in my Shoes or Live a day in my Life!

Biketouringhobo

yes I have my Surly LHT 26in 52cm 2008 with new parts

shelbyfv

Tim- that's an interesting and informative post. I suggest you cross post it in the actual Foo section or ask a mod to move this one. It will get more views there. Your LHT will be a great bike to escape an apocalypse, you are well equipped for any emergency!

Biketouringhobo

I like it here for now

TheLibrarian

I like the question and am ever fearful that i'll be homeless when my mother dies. or have to go live with my sister. If you have a good touring bike you'd be tempted to sell it to get by for a little while but I also consider stockpiling some equipment for my own personal apocalypse. maybe i should spend my money and time ensuring i dont end up in this position. A touring bike is a great tool. You dont need fuel and you can tour so as to not attract too much attention. Although getting some help may or may not be helpful. On top of ssdi I'd expect you also qualify for section 8 housing. Even if not and even in NY you can get a room in a halfway house type situation for $500 and have $100 a week for food. Not great but survivable then you can make some crafts or hustle to get a little extra and have something to do.

Back to being a homeless biker strategies. First more finance: one thing i think is what Ramsey said "How hard is it to get through a month?" You can survive 1 month without spending anything, right there is a used LHT with $953 a month from ssdi if you can get someone to feed you for 30 days. Electronics will be hard to keep dry, in good working order and charged.

One thing that seems good is I've seen 2 different towable trailers. If people think you're on tour as opposed to homeless you can get away with sleeping more places. One is fairly small, another looks like an airstream trailer and a third still looks like a coffin. The airstream type one is a bit large to push but you're in no hurry to get anywhere and it attracts some good attention if it looks cool. more difficult to hide with a trailer like that so you'll have to keep moving, be friendly and move on when the cops tell you to. guy was pulling that with a walmart bike and another bike frame rigged up as a trailer hitch. there are also some communities in the desert, some may be free, others you can get an acre of sand for $500, half your ssdi. Theres no water but no one can tell you you're tresspassing. You'd need to pay some land taxes and Utah is the best bet as there are little to no building codes in many places so you're free to build a shack with no running water or electric or foundation. $10 a day on food leaves you $600 a month for gear and repairs. You certainly need to cook whole ingredients. Pasta, rice, beans, and fresh vegetables.

An interesting book might be Igoni Barret "Love is power or something like that" which has a few short stories detailing life in modern day Nigeria. You might not get meat today, you might be grateful for grandmas yam porridge though even they were concerned about having a shack with no electric to live in.

other alternatives are not to stealth camp but build a bunker somewhere. People hide in active war zones with people actively searching for them. Water towers old abandoned i guess, shipping containers seem to be better options. it may require laying down some capital which could be lost but better than losing your life. It takes a lot of work to build a secret lair.

fietsbob

US Navy 1966 to 1969, what service have you performed for Your Country?

mm718

That's a pretty brutal thing to say to someone with Tim's challenges. Be kind. Everyone is fighting a battle that you know nothing about.

fietsbob

He gets more than I did working for wages .. My Social security retirement check amounts are smaller.

antokelly

one less car on the road i watched some guys living off grid in the desert they seem to be happy in life .best of luck each to there own.

Buffalo Buff

When I got my first apartment in the mid 2000's I was making 800$ per month, paying 400$ per month in rent, + gas and electric in the northern Ohio winters, plus paying for gas in my car. If I were getting that much from the government each month I'd probably tour full time

Biketouringhobo

my SSI and SSDI Did not pay for my Surly LHT 26in 52cm 2008 And I did Schizophrenia Research doing medicine Study in 1-2008 and 10-2008 for big bucks and my MOM Sent me $1500.00

Biketouringhobo

in Oceanside, CA Rooms 4 Rent from $550.00 to $955.00+ and from Feb to Now I also work in the Carnival games

shelbyfv

fBob, that's pretty harsh, especially coming from one who surely holds the BF record for sheer volume of irrelevant and incomprehensible posts!

Biketouringhobo

my SSDI is $753.00 and in California Adds SSI $210.40 = $953.00 and California Pays my Medicare Payments