sloppy robot

this pics off the shimano site... whats the deal with the high flange hubs in the pic?

sorry if this has been covered already...



are they just too lazy to take a new pic?

bombusben

?? They look fine to me ??

Ken Cox

Does sloppy robot have a link to that picture?
I'd like to see a larger version of it.

I have heard several stories about why Shimano has discontinued the large flange hubs.

First, they did it to save money.
The low flange hub allows them to make these hubs on machinery that also makes geared bike hubs.

Second, the weight savings of the low flange hubs have more end-user performance value than whatever mechanical advantages the large flange hubs might have provided.

The two reasons above represent speculations.

redcurrycelt

I wish low-flange hubs still looked good to me! Oh track parts, how you've spoiled my aesthetic sense..

Fugazi Dave

I thought they brought the high flange back...

bombusben

+1

shants

i don't think that they ever discontinued production and sale of them in japan, but i may be wrong. feel free to correct, but i remember reading something that said that they just no longer export them to america (and other places, presumably).

poopncow

me agree w shants

dolface

well, there IS this... https://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...7&postcount=26

Mouton

Come NAHBS, we can ask them ourselves

sloppy robot

thanks for all the answers.. i guess we just dont really know for sure? id like to think shants is right on this one.. which would make sense why they are still in the pic? either way they are super nice.. although after holding one in my hand.. i wouldnt ride it on the street..

TNCLR

The Japanese Shimano site has the same pic. They list both the hi-flange and lo-flange hubs as part of the current Dura-Ace track group...here.

evanyc

im buying a few sets of these soon.

11.4

As far as I've been able to glean, they're only making 36-hole hubs, and rears only in single-sided. So if you want double-sided or any other spoking, you may be paying up soon. I also heard (unconfirmed) that they did one run of hubs with no commitment to make any more, and that this run was bought up instantly by a few distributors (EAI among them). These hubs aren't made by CNC methods; they're apparently made in two pieces that are spun on a lathe together so that the centers fuse to make one finished hub. It's not particularly amenable to large-scale production, and is labor-intensive. American manufacturers have designed their hubs for large-scale CNC manufacturing, but not the old keirin hubs. And since Japan is about to approve carbon disc wheels for parimutuel keirin racing, the demand for these hubs may evaporate rapidly. Definitely get some while you can. I got some -- not at the best prices of a couple years ago, but at least less than $300 -- and have a few extras if someone really needs one. They're double-sided 36-hole, with the NJS stamp. You can probably find some, but if you can't let me know.

trespasser

Shimano still makes double sided, high flange, 32 or 36 holed hubs. they are just not exporting them, but they are available from any shimano dealers in Japan for almost half the price of what they sell in the US. and I don't believe they are stopping production of this model anytime soon as this is the only high flange NJS hubs still in production.

travsi

second that, i got some last week.