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Old 11-01-06, 04:49 PM
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street fix (cost no object)

what do people consider the dream fixed-gear for street use if cost is not a concern (within reason, obviously). custom frame? material? builder? (near NYC would be good) all those other do-dads.

thanks for any suggestions,

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do you want practicality or bling?
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80% practical + 20% bling (but would be curious as to other combinations)
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johnny coast custom. steel
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-moderately priced off the rack steel or Al frame(depending on what weather you'll be riding in). Unless you are bizzarely proportioned custom is a waste for a newbies street bike. A moderately priced frame will hold up alot better then a more expensive one.
-cane creek s2(king for bling)
-shimano un-73(phil for bling)
-moderately priced ritchey(or equivalent level ie easton, fsa etc) stem and seatpost.(thomson for bling)
-formula/dtcomp/openpro(phil/dtcomp/deepv for bling
-ergo road drops(nitto steel track drops for bling)
-canecreek scr-5 right hood and actual dummy for the left.(no brakes for bling)
-105 front brake(campy skeleton for bling.)
-sugino rd with tacomp ring(75 for bling.)
-whatever pedals/saddle you prefer.


If you want to go for pure bling
custom nagasawa
araya disks(front and back)
everything else njs.
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Old 11-01-06, 05:04 PM
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80's Colnago track bike, full campy, clement Criterium sew ups.

Sold one a couple of years ago (not full campy) for $750. It was on consignemt at a bike shop that specialized in BMX doo doo. Paid $125 for it, it had been ridden at most a dozen times.

Way too big a frame for me.
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Old 11-01-06, 05:21 PM
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some add'l info: i'm 6'4'' ~200lbs and find my current steel IRO frame to be rather flexy
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"cost no object"......first of all, i hate you.

to answer your question, i would get a custom built up by vanilla. hubs would be phils, laced to mavics or velocitys. thomson stem and seatpost. king headset, brooks swift titanium rail saddle and brooks bar tape. i'm not super passionate about the rest, but if cost was no object, they'd be nice for sure.

edit: i just realized that the thomson stem and seatpost is silly since vanilla makes the most awesome stems i've ever seen. don't they also make seatposts? i'm too lazy to check. also, if not a vanilla, a jonny cycles would be my second choice.

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I'm picking RAL codes for my dream bike right now. I decided that there is no time like the present, and yes, a custom bike is worth as much as a small car to me.

And yes, my dream bike will be fixed. I'm trying to get a rear disc fixed hub, then it would be perfect.

A moderately priced frame will hold up better than a more expensive one? Well that depends, now doesn't it?

Every tube will be custom on my bike. The bars will be welded to the forks.Good luck on trying to find a real custom like that in an LBS.

Congrats on your project! This is a really exciting process, I love it. It really gives me something to look forward to...
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Hey, what about YOUR dream fixed gear? I don't need to see another ********ly nice NJS or italian track bike that everyone will suggest.
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Old 11-01-06, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Serendipper
I'm picking RAL codes for my dream bike right now. I decided that there is no time like the present, and yes, a custom bike is worth as much as a small car to me.

And yes, my dream bike will be fixed. I'm trying to get a rear disc fixed hub, then it would be perfect.

A moderately priced frame will hold up better than a more expensive one? Well that depends, now doesn't it?

Every tube will be custom on my bike. The bars will be welded to the forks.Good luck on trying to find a real custom like that in an LBS.

Congrats on your project! This is a really exciting process, I love it. It really gives me something to look forward to...
Don't crash it or you'll be stuck with a funny looking bike you can't change the bars on!
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Originally Posted by Shiznaz
Don't crash it or you'll be stuck with a funny looking bike you can't change the bars on!
Thanks for the vote of confidence.

But seriously, I will have the same conundrum a man with a custom Ferrari has...


"Nice day out...do I take the Ferrari? Nah, I might dent a fender...."

Sheeet. I'm taking the Ferrari, homeboy. Vehicles are for driving, not fretting over!
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I 2nd vanilla
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i've been having naughty thoughts about the following:

frame:
  • softride beam [i know some of you are going to wretch at that one]
  • lattice type frame [like moultons], maybe even stainless steel?
  • tabs for discs, mounts for v-brakes, drilled for calipers
  • tabs for racks front and rear
  • sliding vertical dropouts [like on one], long enough so that a 19mm tyre touches the bb when it's fully forward, but there's enough space to fit a 38mm tyre or bigger.

components:
  • campagnolo 07 cranks/bb
  • royce hubs, nimble horse/fly rims, 32x3cross sapim cx-ray spokes, tubulars
  • 130mm hubs front and rear?
  • avid ball bearing 7 cable disc brakes
  • chris king headset
  • adjustable [reach/angle] stem with removable face, nitto 021 or 3t moscow bullhorns, campagnolo carbon brake levers
  • tune speedneedle/ax lightness/m2racer saddle

it would be... strange.

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Originally Posted by Serendipper
A moderately priced frame will hold up better than a more expensive one? Well that depends, now doesn't it?
Maybe their are a few exceptions but not many. As premade frames get more expensive they get made with stonger yet less ductile alloys and thinner walls. Both of these lead to a frames that won't hold up as well.


I also don't understand the bars welded to fork thing. You should post a diagram.
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something like this:


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That seat is definitely going up his rear.
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Originally Posted by dutret
I also don't understand the bars welded to fork thing. You should post a diagram.
It's a cantilever fork, handmade by Kemper .
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so is the part you hold equivalent in hieght/orientation to drops, hoods, flat bars, mustache? The whole thing just seems either heavy, flexy as **** or both. Whimsical maybe.
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Originally Posted by dutret
so is the part you hold equivalent in hieght/orientation to drops, hoods, flat bars, mustache? The whole thing just seems either heavy, flexy as **** or both. Whimsical maybe.
Flexy? Hell no. You are the smart one, you know how forces are more evenly distributed along triangulated vectors such as on a suspension bridge. Heavy? The whole frame weighs about 4 pounds. The bike should be about 14 pounds, maybe 12 brakeless.

Whimsical? Absolutely. But practical. The design came from the designer's solution to where to put your feet when you "coast" on a fixed gear. Voila--the handlebars double as a footrest. Not that I will use them that way. I find them extremely elegant.

For more on the theory, read the works of Ghyka. You may learn something you don't already know.



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Here is another teaser pic of the bar/fork stemless setup.
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Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
johnny coast custom. steel
that's what i got and i recommend coast's work highly.

i'd get a custom steel frame and fork and build it with solid stuff like:

nitto bars and stem
sugino 75 track cranks
phil hubs and velocity fusion rims
thompson post
selle flite saddle
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get some beast frame that looks like this:




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