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Old 04-01-07, 10:22 PM
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Wonder if this hayes brake will tank just as bad as the El Camino

https://www.hayesdiscbrake.com/stroker/
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Honestly, Hayes seems to the Manitou of the brake world. They keep making new products with new names that have all the same problems of the old ones. They are two companies I am amazed are still in buisiness and doing as well as they are.
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Honestly, Hayes seems to the Manitou of the brake world. They keep making new products with new names that have all the same problems of the old ones. They are two companies I am amazed are still in buisiness and doing as well as they are.
And to make it worse, Hayes owns Manitou now.
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The Hayes Nines are finicky, but they get the job done.
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Originally Posted by seely
Honestly, Hayes seems to the Manitou of the brake world. They keep making new products with new names that have all the same problems of the old ones. They are two companies I am amazed are still in buisiness and doing as well as they are.
You're right, I'm waiting for my fork to blow up at any time.........but for over a year now it just keeps rolling along.
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I don't know guys... this thing does look pretty sweet, if it works as good as their (i'm sure unbiased) test riders say then i might be sold.
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They'll fail just as bad as all the other products the component *****s don't jock right away. If I had a nickel for everytime I jumped into a thread where someone was stroking it to one flavor of the month or another, I'd be a millionaire.

I bet you run Kenda Nevegals too. Go back to reading MBA and forumulate some more posts.
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I still have respect for Hayes. A few years back Mags where great brakes, the 9s are a decent price point brake... and the el caminos were a total failure...it happens.

Hopefully the stroker will give some credit back to Hayes.
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Originally Posted by ZeCanon
The 82,000ft descent didn't make any of you think?
Honestly...
I don't think it was one descent, 82,000ft was collective descending for the month of January.
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Does nobody notice the trend yesterday and today? So many ridiculous products being posted... and it's april 1st. The 82,000ft descent didn't make any of you think? How about the comment about downhill coaster wheelies?

Honestly...
82k feet over many weeks, not one descent.
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This isn't an april fools joke:

https://ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178350
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The name of it, "the stroker" immediately causes my mind to fall right into the gutter.
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it seems now people are starting to imitate magura lever body style. Somehow, the Stroker looks heavy and has a weird lever body. And its white!!!, I wonder if it would look cheap??.

Anyone found any reviews bout Hayes EC Trail??, hmm its odd that Hayes has 2 trail brakes, EC Trail and Stroker, weirdddd

And It looks more like Shimano Hydro Dual control, haha
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My Hayes Carbon 9's have worked perfectly. I can't imagine having more stopping power or better modulation.
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whoa...I am out of the loop. When did hayes start making bad brakes?
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
whoa...I am out of the loop. When did hayes start making bad brakes?
About the same time Shimano started sucking - that is to say, whenever the bandwagon drove by.

My El Caminos are not the best brakes ever - I have a couple minor complaints - but in terms of performance, they work just fine, even on 1500+ vertical feet dh descents.
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Originally Posted by gastro
About the same time Shimano started sucking - that is to say, whenever the bandwagon drove by.
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ahhhh...that explains it...by the time I am back in the loop Hopes will suck...thanks for the heads up
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I saw yesterday that this set is in fact real. Almost came back here and corrected myself, but then realized that you guys would do it for me

I'm running hayes 9 carbons and like them, like them for 2 years now or else I would have changed. Interested to see how these perform.
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Will probably be doing the new brakes thing in May. Will probably build up a set of Mags from loose parts, so I won't put them down.
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Anybody remember the old Hayes Purples? Those were some damn nice feeling brakes.
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Originally Posted by wethepeople
Anybody remember the old Hayes Purples? Those were some damn nice feeling brakes.
Hell ya, believe it or not I replaced the lines and bleed a pair today at work. They were in like new condition too.

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Here's some more info on the Stroker...
https://www.sicklines.com/2007/04/06/...troker-update/
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So I suppose I should start calling them Hayesapoo?
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
So I suppose I should start calling them Hayesapoo?
You don't need to call them anything - Avid BB7's are just fine for 95% of the riders on here anyway.
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