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Old 02-06-12, 07:37 AM
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Saddle fit / sit bone issues

I've been trying out a couple of Specialized saddles over the last couple weeks. Not the best time with the weather but I just got the itch.

First tried the 130 mm toupe. Did this because the saddle that came on my Scott was 130mm and flat. Felt ok but was having numbness issues. The toupe got rid of the numbness issues but didn't seem to support my sit bones.

I had been measured for a 143mm saddle, so I returned the 130 and got a 143 test saddle. I could definately feel my sit bones on the saddle which i think is a good thing. It felt pretty good but when I returned the test saddle, they didn't have any 143 toupe experts in stock.

At this point I ask if it would be ok to take a 143 romin home (you have 30 days and can exchange saddles if it comes back looking as it left) and they said that would be fine. I have to say at this point I'm having trouble deciding which I prefer between the two. They are both nice except for one thing that I have noticed with most saddles I've ridden/tried.

I get more soreness on my left sit bone than my right. Could this be a fit issue such as leg length difference, not sitting square on the saddle, etc. I was planning on going through a retul fit closer to spring but I may have to do that sooner if it's something that may help with this situation. Any input would be appreciated.
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Old 02-06-12, 08:44 AM
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I bet it's a leg length difference. I had a similar problem, feeling uncomfortable mostly on the right side. Turns out my right leg is the shorter of the two. After I got a Specialized shim installed, I feel much more balanced on the saddle.
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78 views and one reply...thank you Andy. Maybe I should have just got to the point and ask the question about the sit bone pain....lol
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It depends. I loved the feel of the Toupe, but the flare on the sides rubbed my thighs, so no go. I tried the Romin from there and actually had a ligament that snapped back and forth across the saddle because I have no "meat" on my ass. I have since gone to accept that I will always need something with a bit of padding like the Terry SLX, which is like a narrower version of the Toupe, but with a bit more padding. I'm currently attempting to break in a Brooks on my vintage bike and I'll let you know how that goes.
Another you could try if the Romin doesn't work is the Arione Versus or that Terry that I mentioned or even the Selle Italia FLX - all similar with a bit more padding. Actually, the Selle Italia might be too narrow for you, so nevermind that one.
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Padding is one thing, but feeling more pain on one side means something isn't even, IMHO of course.
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Originally Posted by roadrider63
78 views and one reply...thank you Andy. Maybe I should have just got to the point and ask the question about the sit bone pain....lol
Lots of us have had saddle/sit bone issues, just maybe not your "uneven" problem.

The shim makes sense, you also may try turning the saddle slightly. Mine has a small, but noticeable amount of turn to it.
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I am not sure that they still make it, but you might try the Phenom, comes in all 3 widths, I find mine very comfortable.
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Originally Posted by thump55
Lots of us have had saddle/sit bone issues, just maybe not your "uneven" problem.

The shim makes sense, you also may try turning the saddle slightly. Mine has a small, but noticeable amount of turn to it.
I've seen a few fitters recommend this, it should be worth a shot. James Cobb seems to consider it an integral part of saddle fitting, just like saddle height and tilt.
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Thanks everyone. I also thought about angling the saddle a bit. Not sure which way to go really. I guess some trial and error would have to do for this. Just about to jump on the trainer so I'll see how that goes. Nothing like the road but it's about all I can do on weeknights.
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If you are uncomfortable on the left side, I am guessing that your left leg is shorter, so, turn the saddle clockwise a hair, which will raise the left side (right?)
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Not sure which way to turn it. After a trainer session last night, I'm wondering if the Romin curves down too much so that the width I need for support is the part that is sloping down. make sense. Still, I've noticed the left side sit bone taking more punishment so to speak with all the saddles I've tried.

I know several years ago when I had a bg fit done, the person doing the fit kept measuring with goniometer for leg angle and couldn't get them equal. He then did some sort of leg raise/lowering thing and thought that I had about a 5mm shorter left leg in the tibia area. I also know that the only true way to find this out is through exray or something.

Anyhow, at the time it didn't seem too crucial to him and I was also on mtn bike shoes/pedals. He didn't mention anything about insole shims either. Well, now I have better shoes and pedals so I'm leaning towards a retul fit to see what they have to say. I've been putting it off since last fall so now I guess I'll just give it a try. I spoke to a local racer that had it done and he had nothing but praise for it.

Appreciate everyones help. I'll keep ya posted on anything I find out.
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Your pelvis isn't prefectly symetrical so it's fairly common to twist the saddle to one side or the other by a couple mm to accomidate asymetrical sit bones. To be frank, I had the exact same problem on a 143 Romin.The Romin required me to keep my pelvis rotated to the extreme and was the most painful saddle I've ever ridden (YMMV!). I am now on a Fizik Antares and loving life. One thing I did like about the Romin was the way it held the pelvis while deep in the drops. I might consider a Cromo (more padding) version for a TT bike. So I'd probably go with the Toupe if only because it's a flatter saddle and *I* seem to be more comforatable on them.
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Well, since you liked a flatter seat, then stick with the Toupe. The Romin series is very rounded/curved. I could never get used to it after several hundred miles. Went to a flatter profile seat, a Selle Italia Gel Flow actually, which is similar to the Toupe line, and so far so good.
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