Should permanent running lights for cyclists be mandatory?
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Should permanent running lights for cyclists be mandatory?
Several threads here show that some riders use their lights during the daytime. I also do this (headlights on flash/rear lights flash) because I feel like it makes me more visible to motorists. I finished reading this* article which finds that cyclists running daytime permanent lights resulted in a 19% decrease in bicycle accidents/injury compared to those who didn't. The study was conducted in Odense, Denmark. The authors conclude that
Should it be mandatory that others in the US do so?
*Madsen, J.C.O., T. Andersen, and H.S. Lahrmann. 2013. "Safety effects of permanent running lights for bicycles: A controlled experiment". Accident Analysis and Prevention. 50: 820-829.
The controlled experiment gives evidence that the use of permanent bicycle running lights will significantly improve traffic safety for cyclists due to the improvement of visibility. The results of the project indicate that the occurrence of bicycle accidents with personal injury to the cyclist is 19% lower for persons using a permanent bicycle running light than for persons not using a permanent bicycle running light. Significant effects are documented for multi-party bicycle accidents with personal injury, where the accident rate is 47% lower for persons using a bicycle running light. The results indicate that the bicycle running lights may reduce the occurrence of multiparty bicycle accidents involving motor vehicles as the counterpart as well as the occurrence of multiparty accidents involving other cyclists and pedestrians as the counterpart.
*Madsen, J.C.O., T. Andersen, and H.S. Lahrmann. 2013. "Safety effects of permanent running lights for bicycles: A controlled experiment". Accident Analysis and Prevention. 50: 820-829.
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There are already laws in place for lighting... do we really need more unenforced regulations? How about if motorists just follow the laws set aside for them and don't hit other road users in front of them, and slow down. Oh wait, those laws aren't enforced either...
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I think it should be mandatory because it increases safety for cyclists. It could be enforced with a $100-300 fine. Fines in Denmark are $121 (DKK 700) if lights are not used. As someone here on another thread suggested, the fine could be a 50% coupon that the rider uses to purchase a light. If permanent lights are compulsory the prices of lights would probably go down as well. Making running lights a requirement during the daytime would also decrease the problem of ninja riders at night.
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A good idea and one I follow, but we don't need to make more 'good advice' mandatory. There are more significant societal issues to which our enforcement attentions might be devoted.
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Would an even greater reduction in accident rates make you change your minds and agree with making the lights mandatory? The 19% reduction doesn't really impress me, the 47% does, but it's a little confusing to me what that one is talking about. Is that about multiple bicycles getting run over? And are the wrecks happening at night or in the day light?
I wouldn't vote to make them mandatory, but I feel better about leaving mine (headlight and tail light) running all the time. I have a generator hub and can't feel any difference in effort with the lights on or off, so I leave them on. I'm just generally opposed to regulations inflicted on me for my own good.
"How about if motorists just follow the laws set aside for them and don't hit other road users in front of them, and slow down." We're just dreamers, genec.
I wouldn't vote to make them mandatory, but I feel better about leaving mine (headlight and tail light) running all the time. I have a generator hub and can't feel any difference in effort with the lights on or off, so I leave them on. I'm just generally opposed to regulations inflicted on me for my own good.
"How about if motorists just follow the laws set aside for them and don't hit other road users in front of them, and slow down." We're just dreamers, genec.
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Let's put more mandatory obstacles in the way of people using their bikes.
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We don't allow people to drive automobiles without lights, why should we continue to do so for cyclists? Cyclists not using lights at night is widespread. The safety advantage of using lights at night is obvious. Research has shown that in places where daytime use of lights in automobiles and motorcycles is mandatory has made the roads safer. The article above, and others, are showing that this is also true for cyclists.
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Was it really a controlled study? I would assume that cyclists that use daytime running lights are naturally more cautious and are therefore involved in fewer accidents.
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The study was done with two groups, one with permanent running lights and the other group without them. The group that participated in using permanent lights were not riders who were using them previously. These riders bikes were equipped with these lights after they signed up to volunteer.
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Police in the Netherlands periodically do a spot check on lights during the dark hours, issuing tickets on a rare occasion. Here's a sample of things they don't usually ticket for:
Riding bareheaded (obviously),
Riding the wrong way on a 1 way street(most have signs saying this is OK anyways),
Riding on the sidewalk, pedestrian zone,
through a red light,
through a stop sign,
riding double,
riding drunk,
impeding traffic, etc. etc.
Bikes and their riders have a special status in the country. Motorists don't usually honk at riders who don't wait their turn at intersections. It's not just about creating infrastructure. It's about removing so many barriers that cycling becomes the default choice. If we want to really promote cycling, we'd do well to follow the Dutch example.
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when people value human life more than motorist convenience cycling ceases to become a major "safety" problem.
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Cyclists are forced to use lights in daytime largely because some drivers don't look, or can't see well. Maybe some sort of mandatory measure should be imposed on drivers instead.
Many other factors also decrease bike accidents/injuries, such as avoiding high speed. If they all become mandatory, accidents will decrease for sure, but what a nightmare it would be.
(I'm not against using lights in daytime--in fact I have started doing so, thanks to some members' (including OP's) posts here about the advantages. But I don't think it should be mandatory. Even the now mandatory nighttime lights requirement can't be reinforced.)
Many other factors also decrease bike accidents/injuries, such as avoiding high speed. If they all become mandatory, accidents will decrease for sure, but what a nightmare it would be.
(I'm not against using lights in daytime--in fact I have started doing so, thanks to some members' (including OP's) posts here about the advantages. But I don't think it should be mandatory. Even the now mandatory nighttime lights requirement can't be reinforced.)
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Cyclists are forced to use lights in daytime largely because some drivers don't look, or can't see well. Maybe some sort of mandatory measure should be imposed on drivers instead.
Many other factors also decrease bike accidents/injuries, such as avoiding high speed. If they all become mandatory, accidents will decrease for sure, but what a nightmare it would be.
(I'm not against using lights in daytime--in fact I have started doing so, thanks to some members' (including OP's) posts here about the advantages. But I don't think it should be mandatory. Even the now mandatory nighttime lights requirement can't be reinforced.)
Many other factors also decrease bike accidents/injuries, such as avoiding high speed. If they all become mandatory, accidents will decrease for sure, but what a nightmare it would be.
(I'm not against using lights in daytime--in fact I have started doing so, thanks to some members' (including OP's) posts here about the advantages. But I don't think it should be mandatory. Even the now mandatory nighttime lights requirement can't be reinforced.)
+1000 Same ideas expressed in the 2nd post. I have to agree. Enforce existing laws... period.
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I hope they can get some funding and find out if the flashing lights used in the study are better than steady on lights. Mine don't flash, though I run red blinkies on the rear to supplement my steady on tail light.
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The idiots don't see the hi beams on my motorcycle during the day - so they wouldn't see any on a bicycle either...............