Sorry to all you ODI believers
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Sorry to all you ODI believers
Hey all,
I'm a bit angry today. Just a bit. Sure my odis are pretty tight on, and have been tight. But one day, they developed a little play. so I took the screws off, cleaned off the bar and put the grips back on. I had to screw pretty hard to get the grip to stop moving. In fact, I had to round the heads of the screws a bit. Well, by putting my screw driver at an angle, I could still screw off the keys. Until today. I decided that I should lube the screws a little. Well, I took the screws off once more and put them on. It was hell. The Screws have almost completely rounded out and I'm just really pissed off. I asked my lbs if they had some, they said that they were out of them, but would get them soon. Regardless, my shop is good, my grips aren't. After these have worn down, I'm going back to hairspray and normal grips. It beats having to screw around with screwy screw heads which round so easily.
For me, it didn't work out. For the rest of you, if you like them, keep going. First timers, give it a try. I loved them at first, and now I dislike them. I'm not going to throw them off a cliff, but I'm just saying that ODI ought to go put on stronger screws. I'm sick and tired of having to deal with these soft screws.
I'll get you for this odi. I will...
I'm a bit angry today. Just a bit. Sure my odis are pretty tight on, and have been tight. But one day, they developed a little play. so I took the screws off, cleaned off the bar and put the grips back on. I had to screw pretty hard to get the grip to stop moving. In fact, I had to round the heads of the screws a bit. Well, by putting my screw driver at an angle, I could still screw off the keys. Until today. I decided that I should lube the screws a little. Well, I took the screws off once more and put them on. It was hell. The Screws have almost completely rounded out and I'm just really pissed off. I asked my lbs if they had some, they said that they were out of them, but would get them soon. Regardless, my shop is good, my grips aren't. After these have worn down, I'm going back to hairspray and normal grips. It beats having to screw around with screwy screw heads which round so easily.
For me, it didn't work out. For the rest of you, if you like them, keep going. First timers, give it a try. I loved them at first, and now I dislike them. I'm not going to throw them off a cliff, but I'm just saying that ODI ought to go put on stronger screws. I'm sick and tired of having to deal with these soft screws.
I'll get you for this odi. I will...
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Heres a hint. Stop undoing them and redoing them. Also be more careful. Those screws are small and don't require a tonne to get them tight.
The do develop play. Its not because of how tight you do them, the square edges on the grips become worn. It happens, you do have to replace the grips periodically.
Sounds like user error to me.
The do develop play. Its not because of how tight you do them, the square edges on the grips become worn. It happens, you do have to replace the grips periodically.
Sounds like user error to me.
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I wrap plumbers tape on the tabs when they wear out then put the clamps back on and that makes the grips tight again.
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If you read the instructions (I keep telling you this) and check the reviews (Most of them mention reading the instructions) you'll know that over torquing the 2.5mm bolts is a "bad thing". Why do you think the wrench they give you is so small? You did use their wrench didn't you? You know the one that bends when you put too much force on it?
I regret to say this, but I have NO sympathy for you in the matter.
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Originally Posted by TimB
Speaking of ODI's does anyone make a set thats actually Soft and not as hard as the darn bars them selves?
and for Hooli, i'll agree with all the other replies and say: sounds like user error/over cranking the bolts. if you're stripping the bolt heads out, you're tightening them waaaaaay too tight to start with.
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STop undoing them?
1) I didn't get a wrench, so I had to use one of my SAE's I'm pretty sure.
2) I followed instructions to undo one of the screws and retighten them if play develops.
I've only had these grips for less than a month. I Only tighten to the point that the grip cannot move, and yet, thats enough to round the head of the bolt. Go ahead, call it user error, but I really don't think something that you pay around 30 bucks for should be "user error-ized" so easily.
As for play...when I tightened them at first, there was no play. After a little while, the grip was so loose that I could spin it on my bar with little effort. I don't get that.
1) I didn't get a wrench, so I had to use one of my SAE's I'm pretty sure.
2) I followed instructions to undo one of the screws and retighten them if play develops.
I've only had these grips for less than a month. I Only tighten to the point that the grip cannot move, and yet, thats enough to round the head of the bolt. Go ahead, call it user error, but I really don't think something that you pay around 30 bucks for should be "user error-ized" so easily.
As for play...when I tightened them at first, there was no play. After a little while, the grip was so loose that I could spin it on my bar with little effort. I don't get that.
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Originally Posted by hooligan
STop undoing them?
1) I didn't get a wrench, so I had to use one of my SAE's I'm pretty sure.
2) I followed instructions to undo one of the screws and retighten them if play develops.
I've only had these grips for less than a month. I Only tighten to the point that the grip cannot move, and yet, thats enough to round the head of the bolt. Go ahead, call it user error, but I really don't think something that you pay around 30 bucks for should be "user error-ized" so easily.
As for play...when I tightened them at first, there was no play. After a little while, the grip was so loose that I could spin it on my bar with little effort. I don't get that.
1) I didn't get a wrench, so I had to use one of my SAE's I'm pretty sure.
2) I followed instructions to undo one of the screws and retighten them if play develops.
I've only had these grips for less than a month. I Only tighten to the point that the grip cannot move, and yet, thats enough to round the head of the bolt. Go ahead, call it user error, but I really don't think something that you pay around 30 bucks for should be "user error-ized" so easily.
As for play...when I tightened them at first, there was no play. After a little while, the grip was so loose that I could spin it on my bar with little effort. I don't get that.
no answer for the rest, but it's not ODI's fault that you didn't use the proper allen size, and therefore had problems. they *should* have come with the allen wrench. did you buy them as a kit? oem kit from an online retailer? used? tha tmay have been why no wrench.
ODI grips on four bikes. no stripped bolts, and none of them spin on me.
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that's your problem, you used sae wrenches. Odi does'nt suck, you do.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
If you read the instructions (I keep telling you this) and check the reviews (Most of them mention reading the instructions) you'll know that over torquing the 2.5mm bolts is a "bad thing". Why do you think the wrench they give you is so small? You did use their wrench didn't you? You know the one that bends when you put too much force on it?
I regret to say this, but I have NO sympathy for you in the matter.
I regret to say this, but I have NO sympathy for you in the matter.
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Go to a hardware store and get some stainless steel bolts and use the right size wrench. I've had mine for a year with out a problem.
Why are you taking them on and off anyway. Put um on once and forget about em.
Why are you taking them on and off anyway. Put um on once and forget about em.
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I don't have a 2.5 mm. It's either a 2 or a 3. I'll reconsider ODI for the future, but I'll have a 2.5mm wrench for that too... I still don't like odi that much. By the way, 3/32 Fit perfectly (im pretty sure it was 3/32)
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This isn't ODI's fault at all, this was pure User error.
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Well, it wouldn't hurt if they made harder bolts. Call it user error, I can't say it's not, but I just wish they made those bolts STRONGER. It couldn't hurt, as far as I see.
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Originally Posted by hooligan
I decided that I should lube the screws a little.
Hooligan, have you considered emailing ODI with your issue instead of just complaining to us?
I will say, however, that's the same way I got handy with tools - by tearing stuff apart and screwing it up.
The lessons you pay for are generally the best learned.
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Originally Posted by hooligan
I don't have a 2.5 mm. It's either a 2 or a 3. I'll reconsider ODI for the future, but I'll have a 2.5mm wrench for that too... I still don't like odi that much.
Originally Posted by hooligan
By the way, 3/32 Fit perfectly (im pretty sure it was 3/32)
You used the wrong tool for the job PERIOD this is YOUR fault NOT ODI's get it through your head. If you had read the instructions it tells you exactly what tool to use.
Originally Posted by hooligan
Well, it wouldn't hurt if they made harder bolts. Call it user error, I can't say it's not, but I just wish they made those bolts STRONGER. It couldn't hurt, as far as I see.
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Hooligan, to be completely honest I'm starting to think you are messing around with the bike and that is why you're experiencing all of these problems. Please get a bike maitenance book and read up on how to and before you try it on your good bike, try it on some beater, if it doesn't work then big deal, it was only the beater. If you don't have the right tools to take care of the repair needed take it to a place that does have the tools.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
So somehow it's ODI's fault that you don't have the right tool? Do you not have a multitool of some kind? I know that 99.999999999999 (so on) percent of multitools out there HAVE a 2.5 mm wrench on them. Even the one my parents got at X-mart to give me as a gift has one.
Wrong again sparky. 3/32" or 0.09375 Inches equals 2.38125 Millimeters NOT 2.5
You used the wrong tool for the job PERIOD this is YOUR fault NOT ODI's get it through your head. If you had read the instructions it tells you exactly what tool to use.
The bolts are plenty strong you used the wrong tool. Now man up to it.
Wrong again sparky. 3/32" or 0.09375 Inches equals 2.38125 Millimeters NOT 2.5
You used the wrong tool for the job PERIOD this is YOUR fault NOT ODI's get it through your head. If you had read the instructions it tells you exactly what tool to use.
The bolts are plenty strong you used the wrong tool. Now man up to it.