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Forum: Touring
08-30-21, 06:03 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By Tourist in MSN

Foot print, that is just used to protect the tent...

Foot print, that is just used to protect the tent floor where the ground could damage the floor. There is a local store here that has very heavy duty large plastic bags for large items, similar in...
Forum: Touring
08-30-21, 04:32 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By staehpj1

I suggest skipping the footprint or ground sheet....

I suggest skipping the footprint or ground sheet. I found that I get very little wear there and generally my tents will fail in some other way before the floor fails, but my strategy would be to...
Forum: Touring
08-30-21, 02:59 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By saddlesores

instead of the full tarp, cut out a tent...

instead of the full tarp, cut out a tent footprint....same shape as the tent but a couple inches SMALLER on all sides. otherwise you'll be sitting your NON waterproof tent on top of a FULLY...
Forum: Touring
08-29-21, 01:06 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By Tourist in MSN

Or maybe a small drybag with your valuables...

Or maybe a small drybag with your valuables instead of the pannier? Or small backpack if you have a lot of electronics? The drybag or backpack can be inside the pannier on top. I use a handlebar bag...
Forum: Touring
08-29-21, 12:03 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By gauvins

In larger stores (e.g. Carrefour/Leclerc/Auchan)...

In larger stores (e.g. Carrefour/Leclerc/Auchan) security will probably ask that you leave your bag at the courtesy desk. In smaller ones, you may have to waste time at checkout for the cashier to...
Forum: Touring
08-29-21, 05:15 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By staehpj1

Yep. That is one way most of us learn how to...

Yep.

That is one way most of us learn how to pack. We take too much and adjust. Hopefully we trim the list to something reasonable before the first trip, but the trimming often continues long...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 07:52 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By nun

The bottomline hers is you have multiples of...

The bottomline hers is you have multiples of things and the things you have are heavy. So get rid of multiples, you can buy more on the road and reduce the weight of your "Big 4" items: shelter,...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 07:26 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By veganbikes

I tell people these days to take everything you...

I tell people these days to take everything you think you will need and live off of it for the time you are going to be out, If you find you don't use that item, don't bring it. Obviously some things...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 06:14 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By andrewclaus

I'm coming late to this thread and I haven't read...

I'm coming late to this thread and I haven't read every post, but this is a topic I enjoy. One rule of thumb I've used to reduce packing volume and weight is to be able to wear all the clothing I...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 04:35 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By JohnJ80

OP - you forgot a bunch of Fed Ex forms for all...

OP - you forgot a bunch of Fed Ex forms for all the stuff you're going to ship home.

I did a 6 week trip of the UK and Ireland with about 20 lbs per person with full camping gear and it all fit...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 03:12 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By staehpj1

FWIW, I always found that a tent rolled with the...

FWIW, I always found that a tent rolled with the floor on the outside and put in it's own bag was never wetter or drier after riding on the top of the rack. I always carried mine that way when I used...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 11:05 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By ThermionicScott

If you're not opposed to wool in some way, I...

If you're not opposed to wool in some way, I really like how long you can wear a pair of wool briefs and socks before you really need to wash them. Maybe figure on one spare pair in case what you're...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 10:39 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By gauvins

You may prefer to secure your tent to your rack,...

You may prefer to secure your tent to your rack, by itself. It'll allow it to dry (assuming a day without rain). And if it rains, it'll be wet anyway.
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 08:33 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By Tourist in MSN

When my tent poles are too large to fit in a...

When my tent poles are too large to fit in a pannier, I use a tent pole bag and strap that on the rack, the rest of the tent can be packed elsewhere. In photo below, the green bag on top of the rear...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 04:53 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By Thulsadoom

I used to worry about someone stealing some of my...

I used to worry about someone stealing some of my stuff, but now my whole rig is so road-worn that most people give it a wide berth, probably afraid something is going to jump out at them. Either...
Forum: Touring
08-28-21, 04:32 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By Tourist in MSN

If the dry bag in the top of the photo is your 60...

If the dry bag in the top of the photo is your 60 or 70 liter dry bag, that looks smaller than 60 to 70 liters to me. You might want to fill it up and close the end, measure the diameter and length...
Forum: Touring
08-27-21, 08:40 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By sloar

Take advantage of the local fire departments....

Take advantage of the local fire departments. There is someone always there and they would have no problem in having you leave your bike inside while you explore the city. You might even get a free...
Forum: Touring
08-27-21, 08:22 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By headwind15

I have been touring since '85, I just had A few...

I have been touring since '85, I just had A few thoughts: I highly suggest that you do a "pre-tour" before going over seas. I am about to shove off for Spain (hard to beat for a $500 round trip...
Forum: Touring
08-27-21, 08:25 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By KC8QVO

A 60-70L dry sack is a BIG bag. For...

A 60-70L dry sack is a BIG bag.

For reference - the 2x large yellow dry sacks on the back of my bike, pictured below, are 20L each, or 40L. 60-70 is more than 3x of these.

I will say - having...
Forum: Touring
08-27-21, 08:20 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By timdow

Some of this has probably been said by others...

Some of this has probably been said by others above, but here are my observations:

1. Only see I pair of biking shorts. Might consider taking two.
2. 0-1 pair(s) of underwear is good.
3. Don't...
Forum: Touring
08-27-21, 07:23 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By Tourist in MSN

I think the most common pumps that are...

I think the most common pumps that are recommended on this forum are the Road Morph G or the Lezyne Micro Floor Drive. A few years ago I wrote up a comparison of the two at this link:...
Forum: Touring
08-27-21, 07:07 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By gauvins

Well, in my experience a larger pump makes a...

Well, in my experience a larger pump makes a significant difference, and being stored on the bike frame, doesn't take more space to carry. This being said, I've used my pump once 1 six weeks. So...
Forum: Touring
08-27-21, 06:41 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By Tourist in MSN

I bring two tubes. It is rare, but occasionally I...

I bring two tubes. It is rare, but occasionally I have a valve stem disconnect from the tube or other tube failure that can't be patched.

Not sure how you are getting to France, but your photos...
Forum: Touring
08-27-21, 04:34 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By nun

If you want to keep volume and weight under...

If you want to keep volume and weight under control start by eliminating multiples of things. You don't need lots of clothes. I have one set for riding and another set that I wear off the bike, but...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 10:19 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By gauvins

1. I have spent 6 weeks self-supported this...

1. I have spent 6 weeks self-supported this summer, crossing an area where re-supplying was challenging at best. Everything did fit in 2x12.5L panniers + my tent & Ursack (for food items) attached to...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 08:29 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By fishboat

Others have made good suggestions on what to cut...

Others have made good suggestions on what to cut down or eliminate.

I think you're throwing people's estimate of the volume of your gear by your use of a 60L (or 70L?, you use both values) dry...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 08:23 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By KC8QVO

1 towel for grease? A couple ideas. I...

1 towel for grease?

A couple ideas.

I use paper towels or napkins to hold on to the chain when I am doing maintenance/repairs.

Another idea is to have some nitrile/latex gloves.

Napkins...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 08:17 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By KC8QVO

Re: Duct tape: Buy you a roll of Gorilla...

Re: Duct tape:

Buy you a roll of Gorilla Tape brand Duct tape. It is usually more expensive but it is for a reason - it is far superior to conventional duct tape.

As to how to pack it - someone...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 08:13 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By PedalingWalrus

Now that I know you will be 2-3 weeks in France...

Now that I know you will be 2-3 weeks in France and possibly longer Euro tour I would stay with my original recommendations plus:

ditch the underwear completely...maybe one pair

replace...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 07:40 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By raybo

Have you put all of this on your bike and done an...

Have you put all of this on your bike and done an overnight test? The first time I toured, I did that and it convinced me to take out a lot of heavy clothes. Instead of all those off-bike clothes,...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 06:26 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By PedalingWalrus

how many days is this for? For a weekend...

how many days is this for?

For a weekend trip (2 nights) You just need 1 pair of riding clothes and 1 pair of sleep clothes that could double up as two layers riding clothes in case of some...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 06:13 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By indyfabz

Here’s my towel folded sloppily. That board is...

Here’s my towel folded sloppily. That board is maybe 5” wide.

...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 05:52 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By mrv

Three fuel canisters? Is this a month long trek...

Three fuel canisters? Is this a month long trek you're getting ready for?
Not sure how many days your packing for, but if I were looking at all this I think I would get rid of:
1. the whole roll of...
Forum: Touring
08-26-21, 05:43 AM
Replies: 52
Views: 5,197
Posted By indyfabz

3x of clothing? I take 2x undies, one off-bike...

3x of clothing? I take 2x undies, one off-bike shirt plus a light pullover if it might get chilly and one pair of light convertible pants. I leave the legs at home if it’s likely to be warm. If it...
Forum: Touring
08-24-21, 10:09 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By ClydeClydeson

Lots of good advice here. I used to use the...

Lots of good advice here.

I used to use the 'politely stupid' strategy when I wanted to bring my bike into a store. When they ask you to take the bike outside, respond as if you don't understand...
Forum: Touring
08-24-21, 05:11 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By fishboat

I don't think the use of a personal alarm has...

I don't think the use of a personal alarm has been mentioned. Happy Feet did in post #47
https://www.bikeforums.net/touring/1170781-panniers-tour-2.html

In this thread see posts #15 and #31...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 03:13 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By Tourist in MSN

Just one more general comment. Be careful,...

Just one more general comment. Be careful, assess risks, and use good sense on situational awareness. If you obsess too much about the possibility of theft, you will have a terrible trip. If when...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 02:03 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By staehpj1

Wow! that is a lot of volume. I backpack with a...

Wow! that is a lot of volume. I backpack with a 45 liter pack and that is often with a bear canister of food inside. I restock food daily on tour so I need less capacity on tour. For me 45 liters...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 11:17 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By mev

Repeating some of what is said here but: 1. I...

Repeating some of what is said here but:
1. I keep vitals such as passport, money and usb with key documents on my person.
2. If I stop somewhere along the way and duck into a grocery store, gas...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 11:00 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By str

never leave your bike alone out in the street,...

never leave your bike alone out in the street, only in very little rural villages I leave the bike outside the grocery shop. I have a little emergency lock, a strong look and mybe it opens itself. 😂...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 10:55 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By Nyah

Supermarkets are actually easier than many people...

Supermarkets are actually easier than many people think. These stores accommodate people pushing shopping carts around. I easily bring my bicycle inside and push it around as if it were a cart. ...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 10:38 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By pdlamb

Pay attention out on the road, and after a couple...

Pay attention out on the road, and after a couple weeks, you may develop "sketchy area" antennae. Trust your gut; if it doesn't feel right, respond appropriately.

You're probably right about bike...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 10:30 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By Tourist in MSN

Agree with Indyfabz, situational awareness....

Agree with Indyfabz, situational awareness. Places I am uncomfortable, I leave.

I use a handlebar bag with a quick release for my valuables, that goes in restaurants and grocery stores with me.
...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 10:15 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By Clyde1820

Yup. Indicators are just that. They might or...

Yup. Indicators are just that. They might or might not actually be causally related, in a given community. Difficult to know.

In my own community, though, a large metro area in the U.S.,...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 09:48 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By staehpj1

I don't tend to visit cities much and when I do I...

I don't tend to visit cities much and when I do I am likely to stay with friends, get a room, or otherwise have a place to lock stuff up.

Most of the time I am in small towns. What precautions I...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 08:45 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By debade

I actually did a crime study in a neighborhood I...

I actually did a crime study in a neighborhood I moved where my friends from the burbs were uncomfortable to visit. My friends had a point of view but not a clue of actual problems. Unless you know...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 08:30 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By Clyde1820

IMO, it's anywhere a would-be thief feels...

IMO, it's anywhere a would-be thief feels enabled. Due to the place breeding such folks. Or out of the line of sight from onlookers (to a theft). Or, ...

Can be a graffiti-ridden ghetto hole of...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 08:25 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By indyfabz

An example would be an area where people are...

An example would be an area where people are behaving as if they might be addicts. Three years ago I planned a tour around my 35 high school reunion in western MA. Saturday afternoon of the reunion I...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 08:02 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By debade

Lots of good tips. One I have not seen yet. ...

Lots of good tips. One I have not seen yet. Ortlieb has a thin metal cord that attaches to the pannier which you can lock to the rack. It would not be hard to cut with the right tool. But it...
Forum: Touring
08-23-21, 07:44 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,825
Posted By GhostRider62

An option is just to walk into the supermarket...

An option is just to walk into the supermarket with your bike. Look confident and just go about collecting up your stuff.
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