Tubeless Tires on Road bike. Yuck!
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Orange Seal (regular) or Notubes (regular). I have used the diff versions of both and the regular seals the best. I do use the Subzero Orange Seal in deep winter when riding the Fatbike under freezing, but maybe you can fins the Stan's/NoTubes stuff? Caffe Latex is not great, as Psimet says. Don't bother with it unless you have absolutely noting else available. Obviously, it is much better than nothing but look for different options as well.
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I'm using the Caffelatex in my road wheels with the Panaracer Race A EVO3 tubeless tires with good results. I really don't know what to compare it to since this is is my first bike that I have officially ridden for any distance with a tubeless set up. Once I got my valves and rim tape sorted, the sealant has been working properly.
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So I bought some new wheels recently (Bontrager Aeolus 3 TLR) for my daily driver Giant TCR. I thought I'd try tubeless since I just wanted to try something new. I do ride tubeless on my MTB, just not road yet.
I had some IRC X-guard Formula Pros lying around, and purchased a Schwalbe Pro One Evolution as well, both in 25 C. The frame is a 2013 and wont clear some 28's.
Neither tire would seat. The rim came with bonty rim strip pre-installed, so that's the only lead that we had. I had a buddy come over (racer teammate, former bike mechanic) and we tried soapy water and even hitting it with some CO2. His explanation was that the bead diameters on the tires were slightly small compared to the rim, and that the CO2 blast wasn't enough to get the bead up over the "shelf" (narrow inner channel ) to seat properly. In his opinion, the rim tape looked good and a CO2 compressor would not have necessarily done a lot more than our CO2 canister, so it was just a bad combination.
That basically turned me off from road tubeless. My experience with MTB has been so easy, I don't need to worry about difficult combinations and I can seat most tires with a regular floor pump. I put some tubes in it and some GP5000s I had lying around and honestly I don't see myself going back. The lack of a universal standard (outside Mavic UST) and the higher pressure than MTB can just be problematic if you don't have a amenable combination of equipment. On the flip side, I'm sure if it worked easily that I'd be riding road tubeless now, possibly for a while.
When the Bontrager R3s become available again at the retailer, I might take it to the Trek store and ask them to set them up, but honestly, I might not either.
I don't live in goathead country and don't really get many flats. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I had some IRC X-guard Formula Pros lying around, and purchased a Schwalbe Pro One Evolution as well, both in 25 C. The frame is a 2013 and wont clear some 28's.
Neither tire would seat. The rim came with bonty rim strip pre-installed, so that's the only lead that we had. I had a buddy come over (racer teammate, former bike mechanic) and we tried soapy water and even hitting it with some CO2. His explanation was that the bead diameters on the tires were slightly small compared to the rim, and that the CO2 blast wasn't enough to get the bead up over the "shelf" (narrow inner channel ) to seat properly. In his opinion, the rim tape looked good and a CO2 compressor would not have necessarily done a lot more than our CO2 canister, so it was just a bad combination.
That basically turned me off from road tubeless. My experience with MTB has been so easy, I don't need to worry about difficult combinations and I can seat most tires with a regular floor pump. I put some tubes in it and some GP5000s I had lying around and honestly I don't see myself going back. The lack of a universal standard (outside Mavic UST) and the higher pressure than MTB can just be problematic if you don't have a amenable combination of equipment. On the flip side, I'm sure if it worked easily that I'd be riding road tubeless now, possibly for a while.
When the Bontrager R3s become available again at the retailer, I might take it to the Trek store and ask them to set them up, but honestly, I might not either.
I don't live in goathead country and don't really get many flats. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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So I bought some new wheels recently (Bontrager Aeolus 3 TLR) for my daily driver Giant TCR. I thought I'd try tubeless since I just wanted to try something new. I do ride tubeless on my MTB, just not road yet.
I had some IRC X-guard Formula Pros lying around, and purchased a Schwalbe Pro One Evolution as well, both in 25 C. The frame is a 2013 and wont clear some 28's.
Neither tire would seat. The rim came with bonty rim strip pre-installed, so that's the only lead that we had. I had a buddy come over (racer teammate, former bike mechanic) and we tried soapy water and even hitting it with some CO2. His explanation was that the bead diameters on the tires were slightly small compared to the rim, and that the CO2 blast wasn't enough to get the bead up over the "shelf" (narrow inner channel ) to seat properly. In his opinion, the rim tape looked good and a CO2 compressor would not have necessarily done a lot more than our CO2 canister, so it was just a bad combination.
That basically turned me off from road tubeless. My experience with MTB has been so easy, I don't need to worry about difficult combinations and I can seat most tires with a regular floor pump. I put some tubes in it and some GP5000s I had lying around and honestly I don't see myself going back. The lack of a universal standard (outside Mavic UST) and the higher pressure than MTB can just be problematic if you don't have a amenable combination of equipment. On the flip side, I'm sure if it worked easily that I'd be riding road tubeless now, possibly for a while.
When the Bontrager R3s become available again at the retailer, I might take it to the Trek store and ask them to set them up, but honestly, I might not either.
I don't live in goathead country and don't really get many flats. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I had some IRC X-guard Formula Pros lying around, and purchased a Schwalbe Pro One Evolution as well, both in 25 C. The frame is a 2013 and wont clear some 28's.
Neither tire would seat. The rim came with bonty rim strip pre-installed, so that's the only lead that we had. I had a buddy come over (racer teammate, former bike mechanic) and we tried soapy water and even hitting it with some CO2. His explanation was that the bead diameters on the tires were slightly small compared to the rim, and that the CO2 blast wasn't enough to get the bead up over the "shelf" (narrow inner channel ) to seat properly. In his opinion, the rim tape looked good and a CO2 compressor would not have necessarily done a lot more than our CO2 canister, so it was just a bad combination.
That basically turned me off from road tubeless. My experience with MTB has been so easy, I don't need to worry about difficult combinations and I can seat most tires with a regular floor pump. I put some tubes in it and some GP5000s I had lying around and honestly I don't see myself going back. The lack of a universal standard (outside Mavic UST) and the higher pressure than MTB can just be problematic if you don't have a amenable combination of equipment. On the flip side, I'm sure if it worked easily that I'd be riding road tubeless now, possibly for a while.
When the Bontrager R3s become available again at the retailer, I might take it to the Trek store and ask them to set them up, but honestly, I might not either.
I don't live in goathead country and don't really get many flats. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."