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Old 01-24-08, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HeezaGeeza
Hi, nice build. I'm just finishing mine off and I wondered how you got the decals off. I've managed 2 with a hair dryer so far but man that was hard work and took an hour. Any tips?
no hair dryer, no heat gun, no goo gone. Just an old CD. Hold the edge of the cd against the frame and just plow through them decals. That worked best for me.
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Old 01-24-08, 04:29 PM
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Well i finally got around to taking some pictures of my ride.

Miata 310 - conversion

I originally found her in the fence row of my house, she had been left here about 2 yrs ago by a friend of my room mates before the owner moved away to TX.

I didn't need to do much cleaning up of it to get it on the road.
The only upgrades were the wheel set, and I wouldn't necessarily call my chop and flops much of an upgrade from the risers that were on it, but a def improvement.
And yes, the stickers are still on the wheels, and yes those crappy bars are bare. Was still searching for what i wanted to do with the bars when the weather was warmer and I was riding more.






PS - yeah she's a lil dirty from the weather.

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Old 01-24-08, 05:07 PM
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looks fun. I dig me a Miyata. Is the chain ever so slightly loose?
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Old 01-24-08, 05:17 PM
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I love my miata 112, and yours looks great! which model is that? I wish I had that fork mine was missing chain looks fine to me, loose but probably not gonna throw it unless your doing some crazy stuff. I have been amaized with how a looser chain increased my speed and RPM's.
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Old 01-24-08, 05:41 PM
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^^^

It is a Miata 310 , i've yet to see another one in that color scheme a metallic gray with the red decals, and red accents where the lugs and tubes meet.

The chain is just slightly looser than my preference, little bit of play when track standing, I actually haven't even retentioned it since september when i put that wheel set on.
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Old 01-24-08, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NeilMonday
no hair dryer, no heat gun, no goo gone. Just an old CD. Hold the edge of the cd against the frame and just plow through them decals. That worked best for me.

for the decals i use methyl hydrate, in other word fondue fuel. damp a rag on it and it soften the the decal... worked for me on a 25 yo bike.

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I love my miata 112, and yours looks great! which model is that? I wish I had that fork mine was missing chain looks fine to me, loose but probably not gonna throw it unless your doing some crazy stuff. I have been amaized with how a looser chain increased my speed and RPM's.
i agree with the chain tension, same for me. i little looser chain create less friction on the bearings
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Old 01-24-08, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Metricoclock
It is a Miata 310 , i've yet to see another one in that color scheme a metallic gray with the red decals, and red accents where the lugs and tubes meet.
I have that exact same frame.



I dig the red v's, but peel them stickers off.
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Old 01-24-08, 08:43 PM
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how did you strip the fork?
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Old 01-24-08, 09:00 PM
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By taking the paint off?
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Old 01-24-08, 09:08 PM
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Jasco paint stripper probably
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Old 01-24-08, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate
I have that exact same frame.



I dig the red v's, but peel them stickers off.

is that a gold outline around the red decals???

Mine sat out side in the elements for about 2yrs so mine are not as vibrant, but looks like it could of been a gold out line on the red lettering
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Old 01-24-08, 10:31 PM
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nah its silver around the decals

on a second look it appears that the decals are slightly different. still the same frame and paintjob though.
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Old 01-24-08, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kaiju-velo
looks fun. I dig me a Miyata. Is the chain ever so slightly loose?
what the **** do you care

seriously is there like a bingo game and you only need the "loose chain" spot to win? ive never understood why people give a **** about whether people ride with slack chains.
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Old 01-24-08, 11:41 PM
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I think people care because it affects drivetrain efficiency and chain wear. Personally, I see no problem in letting people do what they think is best for them.
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Old 01-25-08, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by morbot
what the **** do you care

seriously is there like a bingo game and you only need the "loose chain" spot to win? ive never understood why people give a **** about whether people ride with slack chains.
Chill out broham. he was just asking, probably because he's concerned about your drivetrain efficiency or chain wear or something. He's not attacking you.
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Old 01-25-08, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by morbot
what the **** do you care

seriously is there like a bingo game and you only need the "loose chain" spot to win? ive never understood why people give a **** about whether people ride with slack chains.
stop having a fit. that bingo analogy was ****ing stupid.
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Old 01-25-08, 12:05 AM
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Right now I've got a droopy loose chain much like that Miyata. Aside from a little play when I trackstand, I love it. On my old drivetrain I could have never ridden it this loose but now that the chainline is spot on +/-1mm and the whole drivetrain is now 1/8 (whereas before the c-ring was 3/32 and everything else 1/8), I have yet to throw a chain. The increased pedal effeciency and decreased wear on the drivetrain/bearings is a bonus too. Too tight chains are pretty much suicide for the durability factor.

Letsthrowfries I think you have it backwards. Too-tight chains affect drivetrain wear and efficiency; a looser chain is better in that regard but worse if it gets thrown. Track racers traditionally have much looser chains than the average street rider for a reason. Another advantage is you can feel if you're getting "behind the spin" easier.
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Old 01-25-08, 08:34 AM
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Hey Metric, I love your bike. The colors are great. What are you planning for bar wrapping?

Yeah, and ditch the decal on your wheels. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-25-08, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TheKingFiphtin
Hey Metric, I love your bike. The colors are great. What are you planning for bar wrapping?

Yeah, and ditch the decal on your wheels. Just my opinion.
Thanks for the compliment, I really dig it too!

Well I'm planning on throwing on so TT bars that have minimal drop on them, for wrapping them probably some brown tape, that will match the impending brown Brooks saddle. I think that will round things out nicely.

Not planning on too many upgrades for it since it works perfectly fine the way it is.
But once I pick up a reasonable track frame, I will probably be putting drops back on it and use it as my long distance fixed road bike (probably switch out the front and possibly rear to machined deep V's for brakes and some reasonable clip less pedals)
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Old 01-25-08, 11:17 AM
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It's been pretty well established that BFSSFG has no idea about what kind of slack is appropriate in a chain. Every single time a bike gets posted with even a hint of convex curvature in the chain, someone inevitably is like, "DUDE YR GONNA DIE YR CHAIN WILL POP OFF AND YR DRIVETRAIN WILL WEAR AND TARQARROSPOK!"

A little slack is fine.
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Old 01-25-08, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by andre nickatina
Right now I've got a droopy loose chain much like that Miyata. Aside from a little play when I trackstand, I love it. On my old drivetrain I could have never ridden it this loose but now that the chainline is spot on +/-1mm and the whole drivetrain is now 1/8 (whereas before the c-ring was 3/32 and everything else 1/8), I have yet to throw a chain. The increased pedal effeciency and decreased wear on the drivetrain/bearings is a bonus too. Too tight chains are pretty much suicide for the durability factor.

Letsthrowfries I think you have it backwards. Too-tight chains affect drivetrain wear and efficiency; a looser chain is better in that regard but worse if it gets thrown. Track racers traditionally have much looser chains than the average street rider for a reason. Another advantage is you can feel if you're getting "behind the spin" easier.

Thanks Andre, for correcting me. How loose is too loose? Back when I started riding, I threw a chain. I've been riding mine with only a little sag but no where near old lady boob sag- what would you say is a good chain tension? It takes a whiiiile for me to wear down my drivetrain- so I figure it's been alright.
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Old 01-25-08, 12:29 PM
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my chain ahs lost of slack. it dn't derail. 1/8" is beter fro keeping hte chain in it's palce.
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Old 01-25-08, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by piwonka
my chain ahs lost of slack. it dn't derail. 1/8" is beter fro keeping hte chain in it's palce.
dude it's 1:30 in the afternoon. Are you drunk?
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Old 01-25-08, 12:33 PM
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well it is firday.
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Old 01-25-08, 12:53 PM
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Thank god, this week went by so slowly.
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