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08-14-23, 07:58 AM
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08-14-23, 08:06 AM
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Gravel varies by region. Upper Midwest gravel is primarily limestone rock, which will be loose and chunky when first laid down, but will crush and compact the more it's traversed, resulting in a firm base and varying levels of surface looseness. You people (not just you) may mistakingly identify these roads as dirt in your ignorance.
08-14-23, 08:20 AM
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Gravel varies by region. Upper Midwest gravel is primarily limestone rock, which will be loose and chunky when first laid down, but will crush and compact the more it's traversed, resulting in a firm base and varying levels of surface looseness. You people (not just you) may mistakingly identify these roads as dirt in your ignorance.
08-14-23, 08:21 AM
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Someone came up with a variation on the drop bar bike and it was designed to work on dirt. Not a true road bike, not a cyclo-cross bike, not a touring bike. This style was named "gravel bike". Instead of getting hung up on the name, most of us understand what the bike is for and when someone says "gravel bike" we know what they are talking about.
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08-14-23, 08:26 AM
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08-14-23, 08:27 AM
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08-14-23, 08:32 AM
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08-14-23, 08:36 AM
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Why do I hate to say it? Because he was very condescending. Why do I miss him? Because in spite of his quirks, he always had something interesting to say, or an interesting angle to point out.
08-14-23, 08:44 AM
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08-14-23, 08:47 AM
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By the way, do you ever recommend iron infusions for someone who is chronically borderline anemic, despite taking supplements?
08-14-23, 08:50 AM
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Second, if truly iron deficient, you have to find out if they have a malabsorption problem that prevents them from getting oral iron from diet and/or supplements.
If all else fails, IV iron infusions are a thing and can work.
In your case, I actually suspect you have AOCD, "Anemia of Chronic Disease" which happens with autoimmune conditions and the iron is NOT going to help that. The MTX also causes some anemia. You should discuss this with your doctor/noctor.
08-14-23, 09:06 AM
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This is as driven over and packed down a gravel road as you're going to find here and if you zoom in you can see all the pebbles still there.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kenlun...n/photostream/
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08-14-23, 09:10 AM
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That's a dirt road, at least that's what they call them where I grew up. If there were a lot of those within 10 miles of my house, I'd want a gravel bike. There aren't, though.
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08-14-23, 09:17 AM
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The noctor I saw last week is asking if I want to be "referred to hematology." Would you bother?
08-14-23, 09:20 AM
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08-14-23, 09:21 AM
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Maybe. Did you get or have ordered an iron level and TIBC?? That, along with your iron saturation % (which is calculated as iron/TIBC but make sure units are correct) would give a better answer.
08-14-23, 09:25 AM
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The answer is in the first sentence of the post you quoted. When I take a ride on my gravel bike, I will call it a gravel bike ride, regardless of the specific surface material I'm riding on. Similarly, a ride on my mountain bike is a mountain bike ride, regardless of whether or not I ride in the mountains.
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08-14-23, 09:34 AM
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There are some of us who enjoy the "underbiking" aspect of riding a gravel bike on terrain that would be more efficient to ride on a MTB. There is a limit to how far I will push that boundary, but the challenge of handling demanding terrain on a bike not totally suited for it, is exciting. It also makes me a better rider on all my bikes.
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08-14-23, 09:38 AM
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My next plan had been a "road" bike that would accept 36c road tires for exactly that reason.
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08-14-23, 09:39 AM
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08-14-23, 09:39 AM
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Sent a DM. I'm in oversharing territory and this is probably not an issue anyone else here will encounter.
08-14-23, 09:40 AM
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The difference between gravel and dirt was pretty apparent in the Unbound this year - an early section of dirt was mudified and sunk a lot of riders.
08-14-23, 09:54 AM
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Gravel is a state of mind.
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