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If I get another it'll probably be something that can take 700Cx28/650Bx47 but with a roadie-style fit. Current leader in the clubhouse is next year's Milwaukee Mettle, but there are options. Just something to be different from the R2, and be a disc brake option for events to maintain wheel compatibility with AG's SystemSix.
Have you taken a look at that geometry table though What size would you take?
My current idea for a gravel build is predicated on being able to get my old MTB frame repaired. I'm pretty confident that I would be able to get a good drop-bar fit on it, I would just need a nice long rigid fork on it to keep the geometry in line. Chainstays have clearance for 29x2.2 knobbies, so I'd likely run something along the lines of a 700x48-50
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That's a neat bike. Hard to go wrong with Waterford-built steel
Have you taken a look at that geometry table though What size would you take?
My current idea for a gravel build is predicated on being able to get my old MTB frame repaired. I'm pretty confident that I would be able to get a good drop-bar fit on it, I would just need a nice long rigid fork on it to keep the geometry in line. Chainstays have clearance for 29x2.2 knobbies, so I'd likely run something along the lines of a 700x48-50
Have you taken a look at that geometry table though What size would you take?
My current idea for a gravel build is predicated on being able to get my old MTB frame repaired. I'm pretty confident that I would be able to get a good drop-bar fit on it, I would just need a nice long rigid fork on it to keep the geometry in line. Chainstays have clearance for 29x2.2 knobbies, so I'd likely run something along the lines of a 700x48-50
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Oh and since I completely missed answering part of your question, I'd take a 56. Slammed and a 110+ stem for road; raise the stem if I do want more stack for gravel at some point. This all assumes they don't relax the geo when they redo it this winter (per their email to me, when they'll also add 650B compatibility).
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You have some type of mobile wind measuring device or are you relying on a home device?
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I have; are you thinking it's too low? I have short legs and a long torso, and my favorite stack/reach combo so far is my S1 at 560/394. One of the issues with gravel bikes for me is how upright they are; from what I see my desire might be more in line with "all-road", if that really means "gravel clearance, road geometry". All of these terms seem to be used rather loosely, though. Very little risk of me suddenly racing DK.
Although looking at a small sample of CX bikes from Specialized, Canyon, and Trek, they do the same thing. Canyon at least keeps the seat tube angle the same through all the sizes. I guess since pro CX is locked in to 700c wheels some weird geometry comes out at the smaller sizes.
I think you're probably right in your differentiation between gravel and all road.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlF4Mol2cAM
I don't do much downtown, though. Most riding is to the west.
I don't do much downtown, though. Most riding is to the west.
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I was more talking about how between the smallest and largest sizes, the head tube and seat tube angles vary by 2.5°. I get it, since they're CX bikes toe overlap could be a concern on the smaller sizes, but that's a pretty striking difference.
Although looking at a small sample of CX bikes from Specialized, Canyon, and Trek, they do the same thing. Canyon at least keeps the seat tube angle the same through all the sizes. I guess since pro CX is locked in to 700c wheels some weird geometry comes out at the smaller sizes.
I think you're probably right in your differentiation between gravel and all road.
Although looking at a small sample of CX bikes from Specialized, Canyon, and Trek, they do the same thing. Canyon at least keeps the seat tube angle the same through all the sizes. I guess since pro CX is locked in to 700c wheels some weird geometry comes out at the smaller sizes.
I think you're probably right in your differentiation between gravel and all road.
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I don't have a fancy PM but I do have a sense of my power from Zwift rides, and I have been looking at the power estimates from Strava. I do think they are reasonably close for solo rides. Clearly they do NOT take into account wind and other factors, but for a very rough approximation it's not half bad. I would guess it's within 20% of reality for an entire ride. For segments the error rate is a bit higher, of course.
Has anyone compared what Strava says and what your PM says to see if my observation is consistent?
Has anyone compared what Strava says and what your PM says to see if my observation is consistent?
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Oh, ok. I thought they were buttercups. You know, the wild flower that if you put under your chin and your chin turns yellow, it means you like butter.
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I don't do much downtown, though. Most riding is to the west.
I don't do much downtown, though. Most riding is to the west.
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If I get another it'll probably be something that can take 700Cx28/650Bx47 but with a roadie-style fit. Current leader in the clubhouse is next year's Milwaukee Mettle, but there are options. Just something to be different from the R2, and be a disc brake option for events to maintain wheel compatibility with AG's SystemSix.
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Whither patentcad? I hope he did not succumb to the virus. I heard that the elderly are more vulnerable.
ps last login was March 12th. Hmmm....
ps last login was March 12th. Hmmm....