I'm not convinced wider tires are better
07-11-18, 07:36 AM
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is 17 pages a new record for getting trolled?
Just trying to update my records.
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07-11-18, 08:40 AM
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07-11-18, 10:31 AM
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07-11-18, 02:09 PM
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I'm 185 lbs and have ridden various 25s and 32s but no 28s until lately, and they've all been cheap tires (measured width, not nominal). One thing I noticed was that (on the 25s and 32s anyway) if I let the pressure drop below a certain point, the tires would feel "tubby", 100 psi on the 25s and about 80 psi on the 32s. The 28s are the lightest tires I've ever used as well at 275g, the 25s were 350g, and the 32s were all between 500-600g. The 28s also have no puncture protection, they're a flimsy sidewall with a file tread. I don't know what's cause and what's effect but I like the 28s better than all the other tires I've ridden so far, but I only have about 50 miles on them. I'm riding them at 80 rear/60 front, same as I would ride the 32s, and I think maybe it's a little low for the size. Hope I don't get a bunch of flats, but I've ridden over glass and stuff that the 32s seemed to shrug off OK. I'm going to try them on the little bit of gravel on my ride home tonight to see how they do. They were in like new condition on a used bike I just bought, still soft and no cracking of sidewalls, etc., but not available anymore, Bontrager Sport 27 x 1 1/4" (27.5mm inflated/installed). I think my point is that if 28mm tires ride as well as the 28s I'm currently riding, I probably wouldn't need a wider tire unless I gained a lot of weight. Comfort-wise, 25-28mm jump is a big one, much less so from 28-32mm. The vast majority of my riding is commuting long distance.
Does anybody know of a 300g 32mm tire with a flimsy sidewall and file tread? 27" or 700c?
I think my actual speed is probably affected more by my diet, sleep, and motivation than tire width.
I know it's a mixture of (possibly irrelevant) data and opinion, scientifically useless. Actually, that is how I'd describe myself as a person.
Does anybody know of a 300g 32mm tire with a flimsy sidewall and file tread? 27" or 700c?
I think my actual speed is probably affected more by my diet, sleep, and motivation than tire width.
I know it's a mixture of (possibly irrelevant) data and opinion, scientifically useless. Actually, that is how I'd describe myself as a person.
07-11-18, 04:57 PM
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My Stampede Pass EL weigh 265gm new still the packaging on my digital scale (just checked three of them), measure an actual 32mm wide on 23mm wide rims, and they seem to last about 6000 miles (3000 on the front, then move front to the rear for another 3000). I run them at 65/75 psi under my 170-ish lbs and let them drop over the course of several weeks before topping up. You didn’t mention price, but they’re worth it to to me. I also have Chinook Pass EL 28’s (~235gm) on the fender bike, and the 32’s ride just a touch better on rough pavement and chip seal.
https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/co...stampede-pass/
07-11-18, 05:11 PM
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Those are heavy 32’s you’ve got there!
My Stampede Pass EL weigh 265gm new still the packaging on my digital scale (just checked three of them), measure an actual 32mm wide on 23mm wide rims, and they seem to last about 6000 miles (3000 on the front, then move front to the rear for another 3000). I run them at 65/75 psi under my 170-ish lbs and let them drop over the course of several weeks before topping up. You didn’t mention price, but they’re worth it to to me. I also have Chinook Pass EL 28’s (~235gm) on the fender bike, and the 32’s ride just a touch better on rough pavement and chip seal.
https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/co...stampede-pass/
07-15-18, 08:40 PM
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I've tracked my stats for years. I have a lighter fast bike (I call it my fast bike), I also have a gravel grinder with fat tires, plus a daily rider with 700X25's.
My stats, with my bikes, and my motor (me)…. doesn't show any real measurable difference between any of the bikes.
My stats, with my bikes, and my motor (me)…. doesn't show any real measurable difference between any of the bikes.
09-05-18, 01:21 PM
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I'm 185 lbs and have ridden various 25s and 32s but no 28s until lately, and they've all been cheap tires (measured width, not nominal). One thing I noticed was that (on the 25s and 32s anyway) if I let the pressure drop below a certain point, the tires would feel "tubby", 100 psi on the 25s and about 80 psi on the 32s. The 28s are the lightest tires I've ever used as well at 275g, the 25s were 350g, and the 32s were all between 500-600g. The 28s also have no puncture protection, they're a flimsy sidewall with a file tread. I don't know what's cause and what's effect but I like the 28s better than all the other tires I've ridden so far, but I only have about 50 miles on them. I'm riding them at 80 rear/60 front, same as I would ride the 32s, and I think maybe it's a little low for the size. Hope I don't get a bunch of flats, but I've ridden over glass and stuff that the 32s seemed to shrug off OK. I'm going to try them on the little bit of gravel on my ride home tonight to see how they do. They were in like new condition on a used bike I just bought, still soft and no cracking of sidewalls, etc., but not available anymore, Bontrager Sport 27 x 1 1/4" (27.5mm inflated/installed). I think my point is that if 28mm tires ride as well as the 28s I'm currently riding, I probably wouldn't need a wider tire unless I gained a lot of weight. Comfort-wise, 25-28mm jump is a big one, much less so from 28-32mm. The vast majority of my riding is commuting long distance.
Does anybody know of a 300g 32mm tire with a flimsy sidewall and file tread? 27" or 700c?
I think my actual speed is probably affected more by my diet, sleep, and motivation than tire width.
I know it's a mixture of (possibly irrelevant) data and opinion, scientifically useless. Actually, that is how I'd describe myself as a person.
Does anybody know of a 300g 32mm tire with a flimsy sidewall and file tread? 27" or 700c?
I think my actual speed is probably affected more by my diet, sleep, and motivation than tire width.
I know it's a mixture of (possibly irrelevant) data and opinion, scientifically useless. Actually, that is how I'd describe myself as a person.
So no, in my own experience I don't think tire width makes very much difference in speed. All my tires are cheap and heavy, though, and I'm just a commuter.
09-05-18, 08:48 PM
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First and foremost, I want my bikes to look cool in accordance to my personal aesthetic that was greatly influenced if not entirely molded by spending a sunny day in Somerville N.J. watching a bike race in 1968. If I want to ride fast, on a road bike, on a road, I want to ride a bike that looks like those bikes that I saw go so fast 50 years ago. Fat tires look slow and therefore are not better. 28s are stretching it and they go on my Commuter/Rando bike.
200gm / 700-eighteen clinchers 90f-100r psi. Found NOS. Why not? Looks right and rides perfectly fine for me on a new old stock 1985 bike I also found last Spring.
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09-08-18, 06:22 AM
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