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Old 11-12-20, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Even at 10 mph?
It's at the end of "the chute". I was going 35ish MPH, by the time I got to that turn. Other riders come in hotter than that (my lap PR is 4 minutes slower than KOM).

https://www.strava.com/activities/139747118/overview

It's been over six years. I need to go back.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I hope that does not extend to doctors and bicycles.
No, that's dentists or chiropractors or something.
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Old 11-12-20, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Don't worry. I think you can only die the one time.
Great, I feel much better now.
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Old 11-12-20, 02:13 PM
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I just checked. Naturally, there is a segment for "descending the boot". My PR is 1:23, max mph 36.5. The KOM is 1:00, max mph 39.6.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
I only worked long enough to pay for my HS letter jacket. Which I still have and still (kind of) fits.
I earned a letter doing something band related, but never bothered getting a jacket.

In large part because I've never liked my school colors, nor the general aesthetic of the jacket style.

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Originally Posted by rjones28
I've ridden my bike at Watkins Glen.
Spent two nights there during an organized tour. I did not ride the track, but we did camp at the school right near the racing history library, or whatever it's called.

I had always envisioned it as a quiet New England-like town. I was sure wrong.
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Old 11-12-20, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
No, that's dentists or chiropractors or something.
So Cervelo riders - got it.
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Old 11-12-20, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I earned a letter doing something band related, but never bothered getting a jacket.

In large part because I've never liked my school colors, nor the general aesthetic of the jacket style.
I never got a jacket because I didn't like the kind of people that wore them.... yet I played football.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
So Cervelo riders - got it.
They call the R5 the soulless plastic dentist killer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Bonanza
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I never got a jacket because I didn't like the kind of people that wore them.... yet I played football.
I nearly sued my college over the number (very small) of XC meets where I ran in the top 7 or 8 or whatever it was, but I never got that jacket.
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Old 11-12-20, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
On a bike, I'd imagine the straight leading to the turn could as well.
That's only rough when the wind is coming headlong (and that makes the climb utter hell too). The corkscrew isn't fun on a tri bike, and sometimes the wind is brutal and gusting.
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Old 11-12-20, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
So Cervelo riders - got it.
'Round here, Cervelo riders are engineers. Like at a 100% rate.
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Old 11-12-20, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I earned a letter doing something band related, but never bothered getting a jacket.

In large part because I've never liked my school colors, nor the general aesthetic of the jacket style.
IIRC, to get a jacket, you had to Letter in 2 sports. I managed - BARELY - to letter in football senior year, and then in track in the spring, so I got my jacket AFTER I graduated, or at least so close to graduation that it was already too hot to wear it!

But in college, there was a fashion for those of us with varsity jackets to wear them over a hoodie, so I did get some use out of it. It's still at Mom and Dad's house, 45 years later.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I nearly sued my college over the number (very small) of XC meets where I ran in the top 7 or 8 or whatever it was, but I never got that jacket.
wut
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IIRC, to get a jacket, you had to Letter in 2 sports.
To get ours you just had to pay for one.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol

To get ours you just had to pay for one.
Oh, you still had to pay for it. But purchasing one without qualifying was streng verboten.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
When you see the topo view, the thing looks like a roller coaster.



Going up the hill into the blind turn can be pretty daunting at 100 mph, especially when you turn and drop.

Ride 2222 much?
Interesting; on GPS the turn 6->9 complex looks much closer to turn 1 in elevation than it does there.

No, never 2222. Man I don't even like driving on that thing.
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Old 11-12-20, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I never got a jacket because I didn't like the kind of people that wore them.... yet I played football.
That was part of it for me, even though some of my best friends wore theirs religiously.

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IIRC, to get a jacket, you had to Letter in 2 sports. I managed - BARELY - to letter in football senior year, and then in track in the spring, so I got my jacket AFTER I graduated, or at least so close to graduation that it was already too hot to wear it!

But in college, there was a fashion for those of us with varsity jackets to wear them over a hoodie, so I did get some use out of it. It's still at Mom and Dad's house, 45 years later.
I think my school gave you a jacket if you lettered twice or something like that.

I only got the one, I think for some UIL brass ensemble stuff I was a part of. I would have had to pay for mine, so that definitely played a part in why I had no interest in having one.
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Driving it it is slightly downhill through 2, and then pretty flat until you get to 9. Then its just a slight uphill through 9 and 10 when it drops off again.

I don't know how accurate that rendering is, but it seems very much so from my time there.
By contrast, on the bike, Strava has turn 9 only 11' lower, and while it starts a little higher and is certainly shallower, I can confirm people are slow up that section. I think the gentler nature masks it in a car.

https://www.strava.com/activities/41...41349896773738
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Speaking of which, has anyone seen this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/3YearLetterman

I sometimes get the urge to troll like that here.
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Speaking of which, has anyone seen this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/3YearLetterman

I sometimes get the urge to troll like that here.
Two stars would not read again.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Two stars would not read again.
Nothing is too dumb for me in the humor department.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Turn 1 can DIAF for bikes though.
What’s the grade at turn 1. Thinking about it makes my knees buckle.

Originally Posted by rjones28
It's at the end of "the chute". I was going 35ish MPH, by the time I got to that turn. Other riders come in hotter than that (my lap PR is 4 minutes slower than KOM).

https://www.strava.com/activities/139747118/overview

It's been over six years. I need to go back.
Dont forget to say a few nice words for Francois Cevert at the esses.
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What’s the grade at turn 1. Thinking about it makes my knees buckle.
Strava says 14.5% for the steepest part; I can't vouch for that but it's ugly. It's one of the reasons I can't drop my small chainring here.
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I sometimes get the urge to troll like that here.
<==Doesn't troll
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Most of them involved VFR pilots heading out with friends or family for a trip during IFR conditions.
Yep, that will do it almost every time.

I got probably 10 hours into an instrument rating, it's a whole different ball game especially back before GPS. Autopilot helps a lot, I did all my IFR training without any aids like that. Probably why it burned me out so bad.

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