disc hub ideas for a new wheelset
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But its still part of overall weight- just like the saddle, bars, stem, seatpost, pedals, etc. Its weight and it exists as I climb hills.
Part of my care when it comes to even hub weight is that itll be on a steel frame, which obviously isnt the lightest thing around. So since I start behind the 8ball a bit, I look to not have the heaviest components to keep the overall weight from being excessively high.
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Its overall weight, but not rotational weight, so it doesnt affect getting up to speed or anything like that where tires or rim weight matters. Agreed there.
But its still part of overall weight- just like the saddle, bars, stem, seatpost, pedals, etc. Its weight and it exists as I climb hills.
Part of my care when it comes to even hub weight is that itll be on a steel frame, which obviously isnt the lightest thing around. So since I start behind the 8ball a bit, I look to not have the heaviest components to keep the overall weight from being excessively high.
But its still part of overall weight- just like the saddle, bars, stem, seatpost, pedals, etc. Its weight and it exists as I climb hills.
Part of my care when it comes to even hub weight is that itll be on a steel frame, which obviously isnt the lightest thing around. So since I start behind the 8ball a bit, I look to not have the heaviest components to keep the overall weight from being excessively high.
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I am building the frame and since i have no experience with carbon layup or welding aluminum, its gonna be a steel frame with carbon fork.
Really though- why would I want a wheelset that weighs 2050g when one for the same price can weigh 1700g and have the same reliability? Same applies to pretty much everything else. Why buy a stem for $50 that weighs 140g when I can buy one for $25 that weighs 110g? Seatpost, cassette, crankset, tires, etc.
Just because a frame is built with steel doesnt mean weight should just then be ignored and given up on when it comes to components.
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Im a complicated guy, i guess?
I am building the frame and since i have no experience with carbon layup or welding aluminum, its gonna be a steel frame with carbon fork.
Really though- why would I want a wheelset that weighs 2050g when one for the same price can weigh 1700g and have the same reliability? Same applies to pretty much everything else. Why buy a stem for $50 that weighs 140g when I can buy one for $25 that weighs 110g? Seatpost, cassette, crankset, tires, etc.
Just because a frame is built with steel doesnt mean weight should just then be ignored and given up on when it comes to components.
I am building the frame and since i have no experience with carbon layup or welding aluminum, its gonna be a steel frame with carbon fork.
Really though- why would I want a wheelset that weighs 2050g when one for the same price can weigh 1700g and have the same reliability? Same applies to pretty much everything else. Why buy a stem for $50 that weighs 140g when I can buy one for $25 that weighs 110g? Seatpost, cassette, crankset, tires, etc.
Just because a frame is built with steel doesnt mean weight should just then be ignored and given up on when it comes to components.
#32
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I think it just boils down to what you getting for your money. Why would anyone pay $200 for a bitex/novatec rear hub when you can get a Hope? Although I agree that anyone looking cheap and reliable should only be using Shimano hubs.
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#35
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I don't know about you folks, but besides weight, engagement is a deal breaker for me.
Riding some cheap Shimano was like a game, guessing when the hub would engage. I could just feel the cassette biting into the hub. Okay, I jest but some times it did feel like a quarter turn of the cranks.
I seriously started to miss my Chris Kings.
Moving up to some cheap DTs (AXIS I think), engagement became less noticeable.
Now I have two wheel sets with older White Industries H3s, and all is good in the world.
I would get the most hub I could afford, maybe even step up a bit, especially if building a custom wheel set.
Riding some cheap Shimano was like a game, guessing when the hub would engage. I could just feel the cassette biting into the hub. Okay, I jest but some times it did feel like a quarter turn of the cranks.
I seriously started to miss my Chris Kings.
Moving up to some cheap DTs (AXIS I think), engagement became less noticeable.
Now I have two wheel sets with older White Industries H3s, and all is good in the world.
I would get the most hub I could afford, maybe even step up a bit, especially if building a custom wheel set.