Do you have optimism about urban cycling in the future?
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Cute story, SpeshulEd
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This is my favorite story about the google cars so far...
A Cyclist's Track Stand Befuddled One of Google's Self-Driving Cars
A Cyclist's Track Stand Befuddled One of Google's Self-Driving Cars
it apparently detected my presence (it’s covered in Go-Pros) and stayed stationary for several seconds. it finally began to proceed, but as it did, I rolled forward an inch while still standing. the car immediately stopped...
I continued to stand, it continued to stay stopped. then as it began to move again, I had to rock the bike to maintain balance. it stopped abruptly.
we repeated this little dance for about 2 full minutes and the car never made it past the middle of the intersection. the two guys inside were laughing and punching stuff into a laptop, I guess trying to modify some code to ‘teach’ the car something about how to deal with the situation.
the odd thing is that even tho it was a bit of a CF, I felt safer dealing with a self-driving car than a human-operated one.
I continued to stand, it continued to stay stopped. then as it began to move again, I had to rock the bike to maintain balance. it stopped abruptly.
we repeated this little dance for about 2 full minutes and the car never made it past the middle of the intersection. the two guys inside were laughing and punching stuff into a laptop, I guess trying to modify some code to ‘teach’ the car something about how to deal with the situation.
the odd thing is that even tho it was a bit of a CF, I felt safer dealing with a self-driving car than a human-operated one.
The tidbit highlighted above is also a glimpse into how the testing program uses actual humans to “teach” the car to understand the countless unexpected things it might discover on the road. At Google I/O this year, Astro Teller gave us another glimpse into the testing process—which is challenging in part because Google’s testing team must recreate the nearly countless surprises a car could face on the road. Those tests included throwing beach balls at the car as it drives down the road, having a (fake) bird attack or swoop down towards it, and amazingly, having humans pop out of bags in the middle of the street.
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For one thing, bicycles are relatively primary (of course horse carriages are even more so), automobiles represent industrial/technological advancement, and car owning represent wealth, which is what many pursue (this is, of course, not the only reason why many prefer driving). We could use the analog of food: hundreds or thousands years ago people probably ate bland food that were healthier than today's junk food. If people are all so rational, there would be no need for "No smoking" sign, etc., etc....
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For one thing, bicycles are relatively primary (of course hores carriages are even more so), automobiles represent industrial/technological advancement, and car owning represent wealth, which is what many pursue (this is, of course, not the only reason why many prefer driving). We could use the analog of food: hundreds or thousands years ago people probably ate bland food that were healthier than today's junk food. If people are all so rational, there would be no need for "No smoking" sign, etc., etc.... ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Oh and bicycles were once the playthings of the rich.
Lobsters were once only fed to poor people and prisoners
Lobster Was Once A Poor Man's Food - KnowledgeNuts
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There is absolutely no danger of me affording anything but a bicycle ever again so the point would be moot to me.
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