How about ”committed" instead of "serious" cyclists
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That really isn't how "serious" is often used. It's usually employed to trash talk the way other people dedicate their time and resources. It's not really a matter of ruffling feathers, it makes my eyes roll.
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Got it.
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Who on earth has time to waste on this kind of irrelevant nonsense? People who are offended by such trivial crap are constantly on the lookout for new things to be “offended” by so they’re certain to take offense regardless.
I just let them be offended - it doesn’t hurt my feels either way
I just let them be offended - it doesn’t hurt my feels either way
Same here. I agree this is nonsense. Who cares about committed or serious ? Don't take offense but I am content with just being called a cyclist .
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where, exactly, does waving/not waving to similarly cross-indexed in whatever regard cyclists factor in? asking for an cyclotic™ friend...
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"Serious" has connotations that upset a lot of people when describing/separating cyclist types. How about a new term that is less negatively loaded*, but encompasses more varieties of cyclists?
One can be:
In that last sense, anyone who takes personal affront at not being consider a "serious" cyclist would by definition be considered personally invested enough to be a committed cyclist.
*: One connotation for "committed" that I intentionally am fine with is the level of obsession that non-cyclists would perceive to be worthy of professional psychiatric help, because yeah...
One can be:
- Committed to an optimal cycling regime to maximize gains in the pursuit of going farther and faster
- Committed to maximizing their enjoyment of cycling without the overhead and distraction of Watts, training effect, CdA and Crr, etc., etc.
- Committed to looking sharp on the bike within the accepted fashion style of their discipline
- Committed to looking casually incognito such that nobody would know that they were on a bike once they hop off one
- Committed to riding on the best equipment they can buy with their hard-earned money
- Committed to extracting the maximum amount of utility with the absolute minimum amount of monetary on investment
- Committed to the aesthetic of their preferred time period of bikes
- Committed to being their own mechanic and being self-sufficient at home and on the road
- Committed to keeping their bike shop in business because there are more important things to invest their time and knowledge into
- Committed to riding in whatever conditions the weather and seasons throw at them
- Committed to not ever needlessly suffering through inclement weather
- Committed to not letting hostile traffic conditions keep them from riding where and when they want
- Committed to maintaining their sanity by avoiding traffic hell
In that last sense, anyone who takes personal affront at not being consider a "serious" cyclist would by definition be considered personally invested enough to be a committed cyclist.
*: One connotation for "committed" that I intentionally am fine with is the level of obsession that non-cyclists would perceive to be worthy of professional psychiatric help, because yeah...
And you have noted these instances and ofc felt the need to address them.
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Does "lunatic" ever fit in anywhere. Asking for a friend's spouse.
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"Serious" has connotations that upset a lot of people when describing/separating cyclist types. How about a new term that is less negatively loaded*, but encompasses more varieties of cyclists?
One can be:
In that last sense, anyone who takes personal affront at not being consider a "serious" cyclist would by definition be considered personally invested enough to be a committed cyclist.
*: One connotation for "committed" that I intentionally am fine with is the level of obsession that non-cyclists would perceive to be worthy of professional psychiatric help, because yeah...
One can be:
- Committed to an optimal cycling regime to maximize gains in the pursuit of going farther and faster
- Committed to maximizing their enjoyment of cycling without the overhead and distraction of Watts, training effect, CdA and Crr, etc., etc.
- Committed to looking sharp on the bike within the accepted fashion style of their discipline
- Committed to looking casually incognito such that nobody would know that they were on a bike once they hop off one
- Committed to riding on the best equipment they can buy with their hard-earned money
- Committed to extracting the maximum amount of utility with the absolute minimum amount of monetary on investment
- Committed to the aesthetic of their preferred time period of bikes
- Committed to being their own mechanic and being self-sufficient at home and on the road
- Committed to keeping their bike shop in business because there are more important things to invest their time and knowledge into
- Committed to riding in whatever conditions the weather and seasons throw at them
- Committed to not ever needlessly suffering through inclement weather
- Committed to not letting hostile traffic conditions keep them from riding where and when they want
- Committed to maintaining their sanity by avoiding traffic hell
In that last sense, anyone who takes personal affront at not being consider a "serious" cyclist would by definition be considered personally invested enough to be a committed cyclist.
*: One connotation for "committed" that I intentionally am fine with is the level of obsession that non-cyclists would perceive to be worthy of professional psychiatric help, because yeah...
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How about ‘cycling enthusiast’ rather than ‘committed’?
Yes, Delbert is a cycling enthusiast who really should be committed. Seriously!
Yes, Delbert is a cycling enthusiast who really should be committed. Seriously!
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What about some guy on a $ 10 000 dollar bike wearing $ 1000 kit ??...The words enthusiast or committed are just not enough to describe the seriousness of such a cyclist. I think the word "serious cyclist" is here to stay.
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That's op's point-- there's lots of ways to be committed to bicycling. If you look at that list a little closer, you'll see each thing on the list is contradicted by another thing on the list.
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Get the stereotype right--it's that guy and he only takes his bike off the wall and puts on the kit twice a year for two 13 mile rides.
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A weakness I see in using "lunatic" is that the non-cycling public thinks anyone who regularly bikes more than 5 minutes a day, willingly rides on the roads with vehicular traffic, or pays more than $100 for a bike is a lunatic. Among (dare I say) committed cyclists, a lunatic is a salmon, ninja, or someone who attempts railing descents without a helmet or working front brake.
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"Serious" has connotations that upset a lot of people when describing/separating cyclist types. How about a new term that is less negatively loaded*, but encompasses more varieties of cyclists?
One can be:
In that last sense, anyone who takes personal affront at not being consider a "serious" cyclist would by definition be considered personally invested enough to be a committed cyclist.
*: One connotation for "committed" that I intentionally am fine with is the level of obsession that non-cyclists would perceive to be worthy of professional psychiatric help, because yeah...
One can be:
- Committed to an optimal cycling regime to maximize gains in the pursuit of going farther and faster
- Committed to maximizing their enjoyment of cycling without the overhead and distraction of Watts, training effect, CdA and Crr, etc., etc.
- Committed to looking sharp on the bike within the accepted fashion style of their discipline
- Committed to looking casually incognito such that nobody would know that they were on a bike once they hop off one
- Committed to riding on the best equipment they can buy with their hard-earned money
- Committed to extracting the maximum amount of utility with the absolute minimum amount of monetary on investment
- Committed to the aesthetic of their preferred time period of bikes
- Committed to being their own mechanic and being self-sufficient at home and on the road
- Committed to keeping their bike shop in business because there are more important things to invest their time and knowledge into
- Committed to riding in whatever conditions the weather and seasons throw at them
- Committed to not ever needlessly suffering through inclement weather
- Committed to not letting hostile traffic conditions keep them from riding where and when they want
- Committed to maintaining their sanity by avoiding traffic hell
In that last sense, anyone who takes personal affront at not being consider a "serious" cyclist would by definition be considered personally invested enough to be a committed cyclist.
*: One connotation for "committed" that I intentionally am fine with is the level of obsession that non-cyclists would perceive to be worthy of professional psychiatric help, because yeah...
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We have a long list of names to define cyclists based on how they dress, how they look and what type of bikes they ride. Here is a partial list as I can't remember all of them : Fred, Roadie, Hipster, Elitist, Snob, Wannabe Racer Boy, Poser, Club Rider, Serious Cyclist, Real Cyclist, Bike Rider, Guy On A Bike, Leg Shaver, DUI Cyclist, Committed Cyclist, Spandex Warrior.
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I'm committed to not being committed.
(Take that however you like... )
(Take that however you like... )