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Old 07-04-09, 01:34 PM
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WOW. I can't believe you guys have read soooo much into one very short (historically) TT. Friggen race has another 7 stages until it will start to get interesting.

Personally I still think LA and Bruyneel have more than a simple back up plan if AC falters for even a moment. Curious to see how much they will work LA. (Personally I think Bruyneel won't use LA as a domestique but will send him on an attack to wear down other teams, and if LA is able to make time, it could spell trouble for AC)
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Originally Posted by border reiver
WTF happend to Menchov?
Winning the Giro.

Pimpin' ain't easy.
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Old 07-04-09, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by thekillerpenguin
winning the giro.

Pimpin' ain't easy.
lol
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Originally Posted by Zen Cyclery
Anyone think he has a chance at the overall?
i don't mean to be rude

but this statement is just naive.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
Dashed? No. But lets see if he lives up to his word about who will lead the team after the TT. Me thinks not.
Im curious what you expect to happen. Do you think lance is simply just going to sit on contadors wheel instead of working?

My guess is on the first mountain test lance wont even be in a position to help contador especially if there are attacks going on.
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Old 07-04-09, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trustnoone
Cancellara is awsome.
+1

Total stud. Nice having him in the yellow up front - maybe we'll get another treat like stage 3 '07.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE9a4...eature=related
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Old 07-04-09, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lithuania
Im curious what you expect to happen. Do you think lance is simply just going to sit on contadors wheel instead of working?

My guess is on the first mountain test lance wont even be in a position to help contador especially if there are attacks going on.
I think he will but it will go a lil something like this.

Contador: Necesito agua
Armstrong: Say what?
Contador: Necesito agua
Armstrong: Johan, what's he jaw jacking about?
Bruyneel: Alberto, żqué es lo que usted necesita
Contador: Necesito agua!
Bruyneel: Lance, he wants water
Armstrong: Well alrighty then....hey Levi, go fetch us some of that necessary agua while I mind the store.

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Old 07-04-09, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lithuania
Im curious what you expect to happen. Do you think lance is simply just going to sit on contadors wheel instead of working?

My guess is on the first mountain test lance wont even be in a position to help contador especially if there are attacks going on.
There is more to this than just what Lance can or will do for AC on the bike.
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Old 07-04-09, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
i don't mean to be rude

but this statement is just naive.
L'Equipe doesn't think its impossible

https://tour-de-france.velonews.com/a...t-of-favorites

3rd paragraph

He did just win the Tour de Suisse, which has some mountains. Do I really think Cancellara will be anywhere near the overall podium in Paris, no, but he definitely shouldn't be completely ignored from a GC point of view. At least til he looses 20 minutes in the mountains
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
There is more to this than just what Lance can or will do for AC on the bike.
i know. so what do you think him not supporting will entail?
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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo
I think he will but it will go a lil something like this.

Contador: Necesito agua
Armstrong: Say what?
Contador: Necesito agua
Armstrong: Johan, what's he jaw jacking about?
Bruyneel: Alberto, żqué es lo que usted necesita
Contador: Necesito agua!
Bruyneel: Lance, he wants water
Armstrong: Well alrighty then....hey Levi, go fetch us some of that necessary agua while I mild the store.
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Old 07-04-09, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo
I think he will but it will go a lil something like this.

Contador: Necesito agua
Armstrong: Say what?
Contador: Necesito agua
Armstrong: Johan, what's he jaw jacking about?
Bruyneel: Alberto, żqué es lo que usted necesita
Contador: Necesito agua!
Bruyneel: Lance, he wants water
Armstrong: Well alrighty then....hey Levi, go fetch us some of that necessary agua while I mild the store.
So Levi is the new George H? , but it might come to pass.
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Old 07-04-09, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo
I think he will but it will go a lil something like this.

Contador: Necesito agua
Armstrong: Say what?
Contador: Necesito agua
Armstrong: Johan, what's he jaw jacking about?
Bruyneel: Alberto, żqué es lo que usted necesita
Contador: Necesito agua!
Bruyneel: Lance, he wants water
Armstrong: Well alrighty then....hey Levi, go fetch us some of that necessary agua while I mild the store.
Contador got to bring his house boy for that. Horner had to stay home.
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Old 07-04-09, 04:27 PM
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I was also impressed by the times put in by some of the pure climbers today. Both Sastre and Andy Schlek will own Armstrong in the mountains and they are lurking not far off. Sastre started quietly last year too, and look what happened on Alpe d'Huez , plus Andy is the clear leader of his team this year and should be able to make a much more strategic attempt at overall.

WTF happend to Menchov?
Dude Sastre may beat Armstong in the Mtns because Lance is old but not because he is a better climber than Lance. I believe this is Sastre's 9th TDF which means he raced against Lance quite a few times in Lance's prime and GOT smashed in Mtns by Lance. Lance may not be able to climb like he used to but in his prime he was a better climber than Sastre as proven over and over again.
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Old 07-04-09, 04:29 PM
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Old 07-04-09, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cycle2death
Everyone should know not to log onto BF and read something about the tour before watching the tour.
Yeah right!

How many people can refrain from logging onto BF?

Do you have any idea what addiction is? Bike Forums is an addiction, a force greater even that the tdf. God help our wretched souls.
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Old 07-04-09, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg
Dude Sastre may beat Armstong in the Mtns because Lance is old but not because he is a better climber than Lance. I believe this is Sastre's 9th TDF which means he raced against Lance quite a few times in Lance's prime and GOT smashed in Mtns by Lance. Lance may not be able to climb like he used to but in his prime he was a better climber than Sastre as proven over and over again.
Right now in this race in this moment of time Sastre is a better climber than Lance. Deal with it.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin

Pimpin' ain't easy.
bwahahahahaha
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Old 07-04-09, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg
. . . in his prime he was a better climber than Sastre as proven over and over again.
Exactly, dude, that was then, this is now. Catch stage 16 of this year's Giro by any chance? Nuf said.
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Old 07-04-09, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
I wouldn't put that in the title. Put Tour results, spoilers.

Some people are gonna watch it when they get home, and be upset when they find out just by getting on BF who won.
YOU DON'T GO ON BF TO AVOID CYCLING INFORMATION. your fine. those dumb enough to be in the thread without knowing the results deserve the spoiler.
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Old 07-04-09, 05:37 PM
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Geez Sastre is getting zero respect, they miss his start on TV on top of this:


Sastre couldn’t wear yellow jersey to start
Tour officials shelved tradition following three years of controversy
By Andrew Hood
Published: Jul. 4, 2009


Sastre wanted to start the Tour in yellow, but organizers said that practice is now over.
Photo: Agence France Presse
Defending champion Carlos Sastre wanted to wear the yellow jersey to start the 2009 Tour de France in Saturday’s time trial, but race officials told him he couldn’t.

Officials from Cervélo TestTeam approached Tour officials Friday evening about allowing Sastre to wear the maillot jaune, but race officials said the tradition of the previous year’s winner starting the next year’s race was one for the history books.

“We decided to stop this tradition,” said Tour spokesman Mathieu Desplats. “It was a tradition, not a rule. It’s a new race, with a new start and new contenders. There’s no reason why to wear the yellow jersey.”

The tradition of the defending champion wearing the maillot jaune to open the Tour began in the 1970s and became a familiar trademark as the previous year’s winner starting the opening prologue in yellow.

That tradition continued until the retirement of Lance Armstrong in 2005 after winning seven consecutive crowns.

But tradition stuttered the following three years, when controversy and doping scandals meant that Tours from 2006-2008 began without a defending champion at the line.

No one wore a yellow jersey in the 2006 opening prologue simply because there wasn’t a defending champion in the field. Armstrong had retired and his crown was prime for the taking.

The 2007 Tour also started without a yellow jersey because the fate of disqualified winner Floyd Landis was still undetermined. Landis’s appeal was still pending before the start of the 2007 Tour, meaning that eventual winner Oscar Pereiro couldn’t have the honor of starting in yellow.

In 2008, the Tour yet again started without a defending champion because Alberto Contador wasn’t in the race when his Astana team was prevented from racing.


By the time Cervélo officials inquired about a yellow jersey for Sastre to wear in Monaco, the Tour organization had already quietly decided to shelve the long-running tradition.

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Old 07-04-09, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
Geez Sastre is getting zero respect, they miss his start on TV on top of this:


That tradition continued until the retirement of Lance Armstrong in 2005 after winning seven consecutive crowns.

But tradition stuttered the following three years, when controversy and doping scandals meant that Tours from 2006-2008 began without a defending champion at the line.
yet Armstrong is singlehandedly the downfall of the sport.
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Old 07-04-09, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubbayoo
yet Armstrong is singlehandedly the downfall of the sport.
Nah, just the downfall of decent cycling coverage in the USA. Did other countries spend as much time on Lance as VS did, showing his entire ITT from begining to end?
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[QUOTE=mmmdonuts;9219344]Nah, just the downfall of decent cycling coverage in the USA. Did other countries spend as much time on Lance as VS did, showing his entire ITT from begining to end?[/QUOTE]

You realize that Verus has no control over the coverage...so yes other countries saw the same thing as we did.
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Nah, just the downfall of decent cycling coverage in the USA. Did other countries spend as much time on Lance as VS did, showing his entire ITT from begining to end?
Are you KIDDING!? No. This isn't tongue-in-cheek, I am really asking you; are you f-ing JOKING? TV coverage of bike racing in America was practically non-existant before the"downfall of decent cycling coverage in the USA" came along.
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