markk900

I'll take some more photos tomorrow.....but the head lug/head tube is one piece it seems, and very plain. The seat cluster is more interesting (but by far the most interesting part is the open seat stays).

clubman 

Good eye. There were some RR's that ended up with Flyer forks. If your look at the catalogues between the early 20's to 40's you'll see an bunch of Road Racers and Flyers with crossover specs and geometries The professional and Track Flyers were a cut above and often made to order by Doc Morten and then Doug Peden.

The difference in fork, paint and pinstriping is because mine mine is a replacement frame, something CCM offered over many decades right out of the catalogue. I think they got right over their heads with supply management. Trust me, it's no 531 track frame, weighing in over 6 lbs.

exmechanic89

Cool bikes. What do they ride like compared to say a road bike from the 80's?

clubman 

Couldn't be further apart. Lazy, slack angled, but that gives them charm yes? The upscale Flyers were World Champion bikes in the 30's/40/s but Road Racers were common man bikes. The Flyers made in impact on the world thru the efforts of Doc Morton, a real doctor at the 'sixes', an ex racer and a brilliant machinist and engineer who innovated cycling parts and frames throughout the early 20th century.

exmechanic89

I'd love to ride one of them on my daily 45 mile workout ride just to get a feel for what they were riding BITD.

T-Mar

I wasn't referring to the style of bicycle. Road Racer is the proper CCM model name. Here's the page from the 1938 brochure.

clubman 

I'd like to see a pic of the bars from the front? Might be riginals. Unless they are alloy.

T-Mar

There's been lots of discussion over the years on how to differentiate a Road Racer or Club Racer frame from a Flyer or Custom Built Professional Racer. Many people use parameters such as frame angles, seat stay diameters, dropouts, mudguard mounting holes etc. However, in the end, it all comes down to the grade of the tubeset, which is easily identified by the seat post size. The Road Racers and Club Racers all used CCM's standard tubing and 7/8" posts, while the Flyers and CBPRs used lightweight Accles & Pollack or Reynolds tubests that employed much larger, 1-1/16" posts.

The Golden Boy 

"Bright Parts".

markk900

Will do tonight - they are steel though. I have seen pictures of this bend online as period correct but usually they drop a lot faster from the stem.

jefnvk

Nice bike! I've got a CCM rifle and piles of CCM hockey gear, I really want to add a CCM bike to the collection!

BigChief

I see. Well, it certainly is a good idea and a great looking bike. In my younger years, I would have loved one. These days I wouldn't get far without a granny gear

T-Mar

I know the feeling. Local hills that I used to ride in a 46/18T now require a 39/24T. I may have to resort to a triple soon!

T-Mar

I've seen a lot of non-bicycle and non-hockey CCM equipment, but never a rifle! Are you sure it's the same company?

jefnvk

Same logo at least, stamped on a British Enfield of the WWII vintage. I couldn't find much on it online, I assume it was some wartime effort, like the GM Saginaw Steering Gear plant making M1 Carbines. I'll have to snap a pic of it next time I'm at my dads, it is in storage up there.

EDIT: after a bit of a different phrasing for the search, it seems like they were actually a parts subcontractor for the Long Branch Arsenal that made rifles in Toronto during the war.

T-Mar

Thxs, it makes sense when you think of wartime munitions work. CCM was definitely involved in that.

markk900

Here's some additional photos of lugs and handlebars....

CrankyFranky

Pinstriping is an almost lost art, sadly.

clubman 

Definitely not original bars. Ask John at Jet Fuel in Toronto. He's a likely candidate to have a set lying around. Great guy to boot.

Buddy with the beard(?) at Parts Unknown might have some as well.
Here's a 48 Roadster with nice gold pins. Also unbuilt. A smaller looking frame but takes the Canadian 28" wheels...700c

markk900

Updating this thread with a ride impression - not a long ride but not around the block either:









Bike rides beautifully, especially on rougher surfaces (as you would expect with that geometry, which I measure at 67/65). I am running about 85psi in the tires (those are not original rims so no worries) and even so the ride was smooth. It is fairly nimble in spite of that, and can easily be ridden hands off.

The drop bars weren't bad, though it was weird not having hoods to rest on. I had a lot of weight on my hands so I might see if the stem can come up a tad.

I know I am out of shape, but I have no idea how folks rode BITD. The original gearing was 50/16 (50/14 optional), I put a larger rear on (50/18) and even though the bike is light that was a lot for me to push. I made good progress up most hills but give me the 46/20 normal gear of my Humber any day!

Anyway, just thought I should close out this thread with some pictures in use....hope you enjoy.