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RIP: Sophia
Yeah, I pushed that over to the "Where'd You Ride Today" thread. Here's a link: Where'd You Ride Today? (New & Improved) - Page 790 - Bike Forums
Posts # 19733&4.
I didn't talk much there about how she rode. I'm not used to lightweights, having only built one other: a Viner SpecialTouring. Since I don't wear lycra and pretty much ride like a kid, I've never really had a use for them. So Sophia was a special treat, and she felt almost magical in the way she just glides along on smooth pavement. Until you hit a bump <BANG!> But other than that, I really enjoyed the experience.
The rest of this is painful to write. Now, you'll notice that I'm writing most of this in the past tense. That is because she is currently laid-up in the back of my van with a taco'd rear wheel and what looks like an unrecoverable injury to her RD hanger. You'll also notice, in the photo below, how loose the RD was when I transferred the drivetrain from Celeste to Sophia.
The chainstays on the Squadra are about 6 or 7cm shorter than those on the Sport SX. After this photo was taken, I pulled 4 links from the chain and put it back together. I've done this in the past with other chains without any problems, but this one didn't go back together as easily as I expected. Still, I did finally manage to get it done; it was moving nice and consistent with the other links when I put everything back together.
Then, while climbing a hill near my house the next day, out-of-the-saddle like a pro, I shifted down a cog and got a bit of stutter in the driveline. I should have STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, but didn't. One full pedal stroke later and the bike stopped me. I looked down and found the RD entangled in the rear spokes, and the hanger bent back almost double, like this:
Sorry about the crap-quality photo - I just went outside and grabbed this, and I see that the auto-focus picked up on the adjuster screw instead of the hanger. And THAT is why I usually don't use auto-focus.
I'm sure the chain-link that I rejoined after removing those links failed here. So now what? I've no idea, no answers, I mean, the infamous "Drew Procedure" comes to mind immediately, but I don't think I want or need another single-speed, and I damned sure don't want a fixie. Remove and replace the whole dropout? That's beyond my skillset, and would end up Item # 3,456,789,012 on my To-Do List.
I stand 5-feet eight-inches, weigh 205 lbs, and I ride like a kid. I definitely qualify as a Clydesdale, and have no business playing around with these pretty, expen$ive, lightweight roadbikes. I guess I should be glad I've gotten them out of my system.
Eventually, this frameset and wheels, plus the Shimano 105 derailleurs that came with the bike, will go up for sale. But right now I've got to concentrate on my job search - winter is here and it's time to go back to work.
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DQRider OH NO! I’m sorry to hear this. I’m certain this can be repaired but you need to find the right guy. I was lucky enough to work for/with a guy who was previously a machinist and he could do wonderful things. I’ve straightened a few myself but it takes lots of time and patience. I’ve even seen some with the wheel slot splayed open made useable again. The next step might be finding a frame builder (maybe even a motorcycle guy and perhaps a gunsmith?) to grind off the old hanger and replace it.
I suspect an overshift was the culprit here rather than the chain, unless your chain was too short to go in ‘big n big’ but that likely wouldn’t have bent the hanger that way. While I take some grief for it “Derailleur Protectors” are showing up on my bikes. I’d rather take some ribbing for having a dork disc on my fancy ‘80 Batavus Professional than suffer through this issue.
Do you ride with a group? When I got my first good bike I constantly buggering up the rear wheel but after I started going on group and training rides I sort of learned how ‘ride light’ if you will. Avoiding obstacles in the road goes without saying but learning to get out of the saddle and shift your weight rear to front as you go over a bump takes a little, or for me a lot, of practice. I know a lot of guys who can bunny hop over lots of stuff with an incredibly smooth landing but they usually have lots of BMX experience.
Hopefully someone can suggest a place close by to get this repaired.
I suspect an overshift was the culprit here rather than the chain, unless your chain was too short to go in ‘big n big’ but that likely wouldn’t have bent the hanger that way. While I take some grief for it “Derailleur Protectors” are showing up on my bikes. I’d rather take some ribbing for having a dork disc on my fancy ‘80 Batavus Professional than suffer through this issue.
Do you ride with a group? When I got my first good bike I constantly buggering up the rear wheel but after I started going on group and training rides I sort of learned how ‘ride light’ if you will. Avoiding obstacles in the road goes without saying but learning to get out of the saddle and shift your weight rear to front as you go over a bump takes a little, or for me a lot, of practice. I know a lot of guys who can bunny hop over lots of stuff with an incredibly smooth landing but they usually have lots of BMX experience.
Hopefully someone can suggest a place close by to get this repaired.
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(File this one under: "Well, You Asked For It".)
Yeah, I pushed that over to the "Where'd You Ride Today" thread. Here's a link: Where'd You Ride Today? (New & Improved) - Page 790 - Bike Forums
Posts # 19733&4.
I didn't talk much there about how she rode. I'm not used to lightweights, having only built one other: a Viner SpecialTouring. Since I don't wear lycra and pretty much ride like a kid, I've never really had a use for them. So Sophia was a special treat, and she felt almost magical in the way she just glides along on smooth pavement. Until you hit a bump <BANG!> But other than that, I really enjoyed the experience.
The rest of this is painful to write. Now, you'll notice that I'm writing most of this in the past tense. That is because she is currently laid-up in the back of my van with a taco'd rear wheel and what looks like an unrecoverable injury to her RD hanger. You'll also notice, in the photo below, how loose the RD was when I transferred the drivetrain from Celeste to Sophia.
The chainstays on the Squadra are about 6 or 7cm shorter than those on the Sport SX. After this photo was taken, I pulled 4 links from the chain and put it back together. I've done this in the past with other chains without any problems, but this one didn't go back together as easily as I expected. Still, I did finally manage to get it done; it was moving nice and consistent with the other links when I put everything back together.
Then, while climbing a hill near my house the next day, out-of-the-saddle like a pro, I shifted down a cog and got a bit of stutter in the driveline. I should have STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, but didn't. One full pedal stroke later and the bike stopped me. I looked down and found the RD entangled in the rear spokes, and the hanger bent back almost double, like this:
Sorry about the crap-quality photo - I just went outside and grabbed this, and I see that the auto-focus picked up on the adjuster screw instead of the hanger. And THAT is why I usually don't use auto-focus.
I'm sure the chain-link that I rejoined after removing those links failed here. So now what? I've no idea, no answers, I mean, the infamous "Drew Procedure" comes to mind immediately, but I don't think I want or need another single-speed, and I damned sure don't want a fixie. Remove and replace the whole dropout? That's beyond my skillset, and would end up Item # 3,456,789,012 on my To-Do List.
I stand 5-feet eight-inches, weigh 205 lbs, and I ride like a kid. I definitely qualify as a Clydesdale, and have no business playing around with these pretty, expen$ive, lightweight roadbikes. I guess I should be glad I've gotten them out of my system.
Eventually, this frameset and wheels, plus the Shimano 105 derailleurs that came with the bike, will go up for sale. But right now I've got to concentrate on my job search - winter is here and it's time to go back to work.
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Yeah, I pushed that over to the "Where'd You Ride Today" thread. Here's a link: Where'd You Ride Today? (New & Improved) - Page 790 - Bike Forums
Posts # 19733&4.
I didn't talk much there about how she rode. I'm not used to lightweights, having only built one other: a Viner SpecialTouring. Since I don't wear lycra and pretty much ride like a kid, I've never really had a use for them. So Sophia was a special treat, and she felt almost magical in the way she just glides along on smooth pavement. Until you hit a bump <BANG!> But other than that, I really enjoyed the experience.
The rest of this is painful to write. Now, you'll notice that I'm writing most of this in the past tense. That is because she is currently laid-up in the back of my van with a taco'd rear wheel and what looks like an unrecoverable injury to her RD hanger. You'll also notice, in the photo below, how loose the RD was when I transferred the drivetrain from Celeste to Sophia.
The chainstays on the Squadra are about 6 or 7cm shorter than those on the Sport SX. After this photo was taken, I pulled 4 links from the chain and put it back together. I've done this in the past with other chains without any problems, but this one didn't go back together as easily as I expected. Still, I did finally manage to get it done; it was moving nice and consistent with the other links when I put everything back together.
Then, while climbing a hill near my house the next day, out-of-the-saddle like a pro, I shifted down a cog and got a bit of stutter in the driveline. I should have STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, but didn't. One full pedal stroke later and the bike stopped me. I looked down and found the RD entangled in the rear spokes, and the hanger bent back almost double, like this:
Sorry about the crap-quality photo - I just went outside and grabbed this, and I see that the auto-focus picked up on the adjuster screw instead of the hanger. And THAT is why I usually don't use auto-focus.
I'm sure the chain-link that I rejoined after removing those links failed here. So now what? I've no idea, no answers, I mean, the infamous "Drew Procedure" comes to mind immediately, but I don't think I want or need another single-speed, and I damned sure don't want a fixie. Remove and replace the whole dropout? That's beyond my skillset, and would end up Item # 3,456,789,012 on my To-Do List.
I stand 5-feet eight-inches, weigh 205 lbs, and I ride like a kid. I definitely qualify as a Clydesdale, and have no business playing around with these pretty, expen$ive, lightweight roadbikes. I guess I should be glad I've gotten them out of my system.
Eventually, this frameset and wheels, plus the Shimano 105 derailleurs that came with the bike, will go up for sale. But right now I've got to concentrate on my job search - winter is here and it's time to go back to work.
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(File this one under: "Well, You Asked For It".)
Yeah, I pushed that over to the "Where'd You Ride Today" thread. Here's a link: Where'd You Ride Today? (New & Improved) - Page 790 - Bike Forums
Posts # 19733&4.
I didn't talk much there about how she rode. I'm not used to lightweights, having only built one other: a Viner SpecialTouring. Since I don't wear lycra and pretty much ride like a kid, I've never really had a use for them. So Sophia was a special treat, and she felt almost magical in the way she just glides along on smooth pavement. Until you hit a bump <BANG!> But other than that, I really enjoyed the experience.
The rest of this is painful to write. Now, you'll notice that I'm writing most of this in the past tense. That is because she is currently laid-up in the back of my van with a taco'd rear wheel and what looks like an unrecoverable injury to her RD hanger. You'll also notice, in the photo below, how loose the RD was when I transferred the drivetrain from Celeste to Sophia.
The chainstays on the Squadra are about 6 or 7cm shorter than those on the Sport SX. After this photo was taken, I pulled 4 links from the chain and put it back together. I've done this in the past with other chains without any problems, but this one didn't go back together as easily as I expected. Still, I did finally manage to get it done; it was moving nice and consistent with the other links when I put everything back together.
Then, while climbing a hill near my house the next day, out-of-the-saddle like a pro, I shifted down a cog and got a bit of stutter in the driveline. I should have STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, but didn't. One full pedal stroke later and the bike stopped me. I looked down and found the RD entangled in the rear spokes, and the hanger bent back almost double, like this:
Sorry about the crap-quality photo - I just went outside and grabbed this, and I see that the auto-focus picked up on the adjuster screw instead of the hanger. And THAT is why I usually don't use auto-focus.
I'm sure the chain-link that I rejoined after removing those links failed here. So now what? I've no idea, no answers, I mean, the infamous "Drew Procedure" comes to mind immediately, but I don't think I want or need another single-speed, and I damned sure don't want a fixie. Remove and replace the whole dropout? That's beyond my skillset, and would end up Item # 3,456,789,012 on my To-Do List.
I stand 5-feet eight-inches, weigh 205 lbs, and I ride like a kid. I definitely qualify as a Clydesdale, and have no business playing around with these pretty, expen$ive, lightweight roadbikes. I guess I should be glad I've gotten them out of my system.
Eventually, this frameset and wheels, plus the Shimano 105 derailleurs that came with the bike, will go up for sale. But right now I've got to concentrate on my job search - winter is here and it's time to go back to work.
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Yeah, I pushed that over to the "Where'd You Ride Today" thread. Here's a link: Where'd You Ride Today? (New & Improved) - Page 790 - Bike Forums
Posts # 19733&4.
I didn't talk much there about how she rode. I'm not used to lightweights, having only built one other: a Viner SpecialTouring. Since I don't wear lycra and pretty much ride like a kid, I've never really had a use for them. So Sophia was a special treat, and she felt almost magical in the way she just glides along on smooth pavement. Until you hit a bump <BANG!> But other than that, I really enjoyed the experience.
The rest of this is painful to write. Now, you'll notice that I'm writing most of this in the past tense. That is because she is currently laid-up in the back of my van with a taco'd rear wheel and what looks like an unrecoverable injury to her RD hanger. You'll also notice, in the photo below, how loose the RD was when I transferred the drivetrain from Celeste to Sophia.
The chainstays on the Squadra are about 6 or 7cm shorter than those on the Sport SX. After this photo was taken, I pulled 4 links from the chain and put it back together. I've done this in the past with other chains without any problems, but this one didn't go back together as easily as I expected. Still, I did finally manage to get it done; it was moving nice and consistent with the other links when I put everything back together.
Then, while climbing a hill near my house the next day, out-of-the-saddle like a pro, I shifted down a cog and got a bit of stutter in the driveline. I should have STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, but didn't. One full pedal stroke later and the bike stopped me. I looked down and found the RD entangled in the rear spokes, and the hanger bent back almost double, like this:
Sorry about the crap-quality photo - I just went outside and grabbed this, and I see that the auto-focus picked up on the adjuster screw instead of the hanger. And THAT is why I usually don't use auto-focus.
I'm sure the chain-link that I rejoined after removing those links failed here. So now what? I've no idea, no answers, I mean, the infamous "Drew Procedure" comes to mind immediately, but I don't think I want or need another single-speed, and I damned sure don't want a fixie. Remove and replace the whole dropout? That's beyond my skillset, and would end up Item # 3,456,789,012 on my To-Do List.
I stand 5-feet eight-inches, weigh 205 lbs, and I ride like a kid. I definitely qualify as a Clydesdale, and have no business playing around with these pretty, expen$ive, lightweight roadbikes. I guess I should be glad I've gotten them out of my system.
Eventually, this frameset and wheels, plus the Shimano 105 derailleurs that came with the bike, will go up for sale. But right now I've got to concentrate on my job search - winter is here and it's time to go back to work.
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As for lightweight steel bicycles, they are not necessarily more delicate than your standard, single butted frames. There's plenty bicycles with Reynolds or Columbus steel out there which lasted decades without issues. The reason why you won't see many heavy frames with damage on the market is most likely because they got discarded as junk the moment something went wrong.
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SUCCESS!! Or should I say SIMPLEX!! Aren’t these beautiful? I mean those Rival shifters have a graceful elegance to them but these scream VINTAGE. as they say in Boston it shifts like buttah.
The Sachs Rival shifters are very elegant looking and the same space as shipmano 7spd. They worked great with the 600 RD I had on this bike but I started running them in micro friction mode. so when I found that beautiful Sprint derailleur I decided to use these to go friction.
The Sachs Rival shifters are very elegant looking and the same space as shipmano 7spd. They worked great with the 600 RD I had on this bike but I started running them in micro friction mode. so when I found that beautiful Sprint derailleur I decided to use these to go friction.
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SUCCESS!! Or should I say SIMPLEX!! Aren’t these beautiful? I mean those Rival shifters have a graceful elegance to them but these scream VINTAGE. as they in Boston it shifts like buttah.
The Sachs Rival shifters are very elegant looking and the same space as shipmano 7spd. They worked great with the 600 RD I had on this bike but I started running them in micro friction mode. so when I found that beautiful Sprint derailleur I decided to use these to go friction.
The Sachs Rival shifters are very elegant looking and the same space as shipmano 7spd. They worked great with the 600 RD I had on this bike but I started running them in micro friction mode. so when I found that beautiful Sprint derailleur I decided to use these to go friction.
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I seriously like the Stronglight 105 (I think) crankset on the bicycle on the right side of the photo. I'm especially envious of the intact dust caps, wasn't able to preserve them on mine and they can be found only at exorbitant prices, it would seem. I have the TER (black chainrings) version of Stronglight 105 crankset and I think it's one of the most interesting vintage designs.
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Pretty sure that's a Stronglight 93. The corners of its arms are sharply squared, and the 105's arms are more rounded. I still have scars on the nubs of my ankles from when I was 13 or 14 and had my first set of slotted cleats for my PX10 with a 93. I'd have loved to have had a 105.
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I didn't have much faith in how this would turn out but am pleasantly surprised. I even broke out the NOS Schwinn branded saddle.
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My Motobecane is getting new mudguards. Oxford chromoplastics in silver went to another bicycle which I'm planning to sell and where they look better. Moto got Bluemels Olympic Racer 35mm in shiny black. One thing I like about skinny black Bluemels is that they blend in with the tyres and hug them very closely. Of course, they are not vintage, but in my opinion don't look off on the 70's bicycle. And are much lighter than the steel mudguards.
Yes, these are P-clips. I have some Dia Compe mudguard mounting washers / spacers for the hub axle and don't like them (too long for no reason I can think of). Short of brazing on mudguard eyelets on the frame (not an option on this one), unfortunately P-clips are the most strudy and reliable option there is. And can be easily removed if necessary. I have an idea for a different, custom solution, but haven't had the time to work on it yet.
Yes, these are P-clips. I have some Dia Compe mudguard mounting washers / spacers for the hub axle and don't like them (too long for no reason I can think of). Short of brazing on mudguard eyelets on the frame (not an option on this one), unfortunately P-clips are the most strudy and reliable option there is. And can be easily removed if necessary. I have an idea for a different, custom solution, but haven't had the time to work on it yet.
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flat black dirt drop
Got a stem from jdawginsc
degreased and 600 grit smoothed the black paint a bit.
then rattle can enamel flat black
Question - would a clear coat reduce the chance of the stem bonding to the steerer tube?
degreased and 600 grit smoothed the black paint a bit.
then rattle can enamel flat black
Question - would a clear coat reduce the chance of the stem bonding to the steerer tube?
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Got a stem from jdawginsc
degreased and 600 grit smoothed the black paint a bit.
then rattle can enamel flat black
Question - would a clear coat reduce the chance of the stem bonding to the steerer tube?
degreased and 600 grit smoothed the black paint a bit.
then rattle can enamel flat black
Question - would a clear coat reduce the chance of the stem bonding to the steerer tube?
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc;[url=tel:22707635
22707635[/url]]That came out nicely. I don't think a clear coat and polish would hurt anything for sure. The only problem I have had with painted stems is you have to start high to test height then inch down to adjust (otherwise the scraped paint shows).
Right! - I would have preferred a polished stem - heck still might do that to this one - but it’ll start black. The frame it’s going into has a short head tube, so it’ll be at max height. Not sure what bars yet. Nitto albatross or Soma Sparrow most likely. This bodge project does not warrant $210 Nitto BullMoose bars!! Thanks for your help
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Right! - I would have preferred a polished stem - heck still might do that to this one - but it’ll start black. The frame it’s going into has a short head tube, so it’ll be at max height. Not sure what bars yet. Nitto albatross or Soma Sparrow most likely. This bodge project does not warrant $210 Nitto BullMoose bars!! Thanks for your help
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Im sorry I should have replied sooner. Yes they work very well as I believe the whole Sachs index system was based on the Shipmano spaced freewheels. As soon as get my lazy butt to work finding a reasonable price to ask I have a pair or two I’m going to be selling. I snatched up a few sets years ago when I decided on the shipmano 7spd HG as a “standard” for most of my bikes, but I seem to devolved to friction and retro friction shifting.
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At this point, I'd say you don't have anything to lose by putting a big crescent wrench on it and start bending it back. I actually saved one about that bad by getting it relatively close with the crescent, and finishing with a shimano rear wheel. Not a bad idea to put a donor RD bolt through when you can to keep the hole from distorting too much. Worst case scenario, put an old claw on it or splurge on a $25 Wheels Manufacturing universal hanger.
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Im sorry I should have replied sooner. Yes they work very well as I believe the whole Sachs index system was based on the Shipmano spaced freewheels. As soon as get my lazy butt to work finding a reasonable price to ask I have a pair or two I’m going to be selling. I snatched up a few sets years ago when I decided on the shipmano 7spd HG as a “standard” for most of my bikes, but I seem to devolved to friction and retro friction shifting.
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The Performance gets rebuilt with a 105 makeover. I've had this a number of years, originally 2x8 Shimano 600, with a ti stem a mile long. The 600 just did not do it for me, the color of the brakes and calipers was a clash in my mind. I had it built with shiny bits, even with the best of the best, the Focus did not float the boat.
Last week I saw a Black Widow Marin at price point favorable, instantly I thought frame swap. And swap I did. From Marin to Focus.
The hubs are the only non 105 of the grouping, they are cartridge bearing Xero branded. I'll eventually replace the Xero for 105, bit for now this is how it sits.
The pedals are Cyclone pista.
Last week I saw a Black Widow Marin at price point favorable, instantly I thought frame swap. And swap I did. From Marin to Focus.
The hubs are the only non 105 of the grouping, they are cartridge bearing Xero branded. I'll eventually replace the Xero for 105, bit for now this is how it sits.
The pedals are Cyclone pista.
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SUCCESS!! Or should I say SIMPLEX!! Aren’t these beautiful? I mean those Rival shifters have a graceful elegance to them but these scream VINTAGE. as they say in Boston it shifts like buttah.
The Sachs Rival shifters are very elegant looking and the same space as shipmano 7spd. They worked great with the 600 RD I had on this bike but I started running them in micro friction mode. so when I found that beautiful Sprint derailleur I decided to use these to go friction.
The Sachs Rival shifters are very elegant looking and the same space as shipmano 7spd. They worked great with the 600 RD I had on this bike but I started running them in micro friction mode. so when I found that beautiful Sprint derailleur I decided to use these to go friction.
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The last several wheel builds were also with previously used spokes and sometimes used nipples also. The spokes were a little short or a little long — a real pita. I lucked out with this one. The Aerohead was available to BFers but there were no takers and that worked out perfectly with these briefly used spokes, left over new nipples, and my first Dyno hub — an SP..
Better than the bottle? We’ll see.
Better than the bottle? We’ll see.
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Been really busy overhauling a couple bikes to flip, which is fun, but there's not that sort of rewarding feeling like I'm going to be able to use the thing. Then I got these hubs yesterday for my own bike. First thing I did is open them up to make sure that the races and cones were perfect before I purchased a pair of black Sun m13ii rims. All good. Then I polished the spoke hole rash with a file, 600 grit, and Mother's. They then got fresh grease and bearings.
The only problem I ran into is the drive-side rear cone/spacer/locknut were stuck together. I let the axle sit in a shot glass of acetone and ATF for a couple hours and then went back at it with two cone wrenches, working on the floor this time and trying the wrenches in different positions to get the best mechanical advantage. Puuussshhh!!! Whew! Success!
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The only problem I ran into is the drive-side rear cone/spacer/locknut were stuck together. I let the axle sit in a shot glass of acetone and ATF for a couple hours and then went back at it with two cone wrenches, working on the floor this time and trying the wrenches in different positions to get the best mechanical advantage. Puuussshhh!!! Whew! Success!
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The last several wheel builds were also with previously used spokes and sometimes used nipples also. The spokes were a little short or a little long — a real pita. I lucked out with this one. The Aerohead was available to BFers but there were no takers and that worked out perfectly with these briefly used spokes, left over new nipples, and my first Dyno hub — an SP..
Better than the bottle? We’ll see.
Better than the bottle? We’ll see.
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Took a look inside the structural chaincase of the Gazelle Friiik today. It's honestly ingenious in its simplicity. Like a derailleur from the Sturmey Archer parts bin, using lots of SA AW hub parts.
Barely any wear for a 10 year old commuter though.
Barely any wear for a 10 year old commuter though.
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Im sorry I should have replied sooner. Yes they work very well as I believe the whole Sachs index system was based on the Shipmano spaced freewheels. As soon as get my lazy butt to work finding a reasonable price to ask I have a pair or two I’m going to be selling. I snatched up a few sets years ago when I decided on the shipmano 7spd HG as a “standard” for most of my bikes, but I seem to devolved to friction and retro friction shifting.
My personal preference is for 2x7 Shimano indexed. Not that I remember last time I used small chainring in front and two largest sprockets at the back, but indexing is useful to have and 2x7 components are plentiful and relatively cheap. Also, Shimano 600EX group is in my opinion their nicest looking indexed one from the 80's, apart from DuraAce 7400 (but that's barely compatible with itself and way overpriced), and I find it very reliable. So that's what I have on my daily rider Motobecane. Now that you mentioned friction, I might actually do some experiments and switch the shifters into friction position to see how I can improve on the other one.