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I mentioned last week that I had signed up for the free trial of Wahoo's SYSTM training app, because I was curious about their whole '4DP' approach which makes more sense to me than using just FTP. So I thought I might do the Full Frontal test. I watched some videos about it this weekend. Now I'm not so sure. The recommendation to have a "Sick Bucket" handy is more than a little off-putting. Plus, you know, I'm 64 years old, fer chrissakes. When professional athletes say, "It's the hardest thing I've ever done! I'll never, ever do it again!", it does make it seem kind of ... dangerous? More than that, though, is the realization that, since I've never even TRIED to do a 5 minute all-out effort, let alone that, then a 20 minute all-out effort after that, and a 1 minute all-out effort after THAT, perhaps I should consider walking before I try to fly.*
BUT one thing I saw is that SYSTM has a warmup workout that's supposed to rev you up for the test. I'm thinking maybe I'll do that warmup and then the Half Monty again.
My other observation is about YouTube, and it's that no matter the subject, YouTube lives up to Sturgeon's Law, that "90% of everything is crap." I see SO MANY poorly done, unengaging videos, on every subject I look into. 20 minutes of talking to a camera about a SPORT, without any video of what you're talking about? Why would ANYONE think that's good videography?
*I also would observe that chickening out is also the sort of thing that says something about one's motivation and personality.
BUT one thing I saw is that SYSTM has a warmup workout that's supposed to rev you up for the test. I'm thinking maybe I'll do that warmup and then the Half Monty again.
My other observation is about YouTube, and it's that no matter the subject, YouTube lives up to Sturgeon's Law, that "90% of everything is crap." I see SO MANY poorly done, unengaging videos, on every subject I look into. 20 minutes of talking to a camera about a SPORT, without any video of what you're talking about? Why would ANYONE think that's good videography?
*I also would observe that chickening out is also the sort of thing that says something about one's motivation and personality.
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We saw Dr. Whitney for many years. He had a practice in an office below his house on Walnut around 58th.
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I will admit to being quite old and/or outta touch. The last Rap song I really liked was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kjeWGQ175g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kjeWGQ175g
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Did a FulGaz ride this morning in Virginia and one of the club riders in the video was riding my bike:
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I do think structured workouts, and more structured training is probably more beneficial than just more "Modified Merckx". I just need a better understanding of which ones will most benefit my weaknesses.
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I think the aero frame and wheels might make a difference in the sprint in a crit, as well as when attacking for strategic/psychological reasons, but yeah - it shouldn't make much difference in a bunch. It's almost talismanic, though, for me. I choose a different bike for different rides, even though I'm not really paying attention to time or setting PRs, just because I can.
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I am on may parents' dining room table. Family doctor made a house call to examine me a day or two after I was brought home. I have an 8"x10" print of it at home that I know I scanned. Just have to find it.
We saw Dr. Whitney for many years. He had a practice in an office below his house on Walnut around 58th.
We saw Dr. Whitney for many years. He had a practice in an office below his house on Walnut around 58th.
We ended up doing something similar with The Boys. The Older Boy, my wife actually recorded HOURS of video of him doing the most mundane baby things. The Younger Boy - almost no video. But tons of pics.
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Yeah, that's the thing. I'm undecided on that, because I'm not sure what my goals are in cycling. I want to be able to faster for longer, and climb better, but that's pretty vague. I'm not going to race IRL, and outside of a few crits and even fewer longer races, I'm not looking to become and eSports champion. I have largely accepted that among serious cyclists I am somewhere below mediocre.
I do think structured workouts, and more structured training is probably more beneficial than just more "Modified Merckx". I just need a better understanding of which ones will most benefit my weaknesses.
I do think structured workouts, and more structured training is probably more beneficial than just more "Modified Merckx". I just need a better understanding of which ones will most benefit my weaknesses.
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And that's the great thing! I was listening to something on the radio today about personality, including intro- vs extroversion, and I thought about how great it is that I can do my solitary rides to my heart's content and not mind riding alone, while more sociable folks, can do group rides, and we're all having a blast in our own ways. Similarly, you can be a racer and constantly competing against others, or you can just compete against yourself, or you can go out for a dawdle when the wildflowers are blooming just for grins.
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It's not so much that they COULDN'T pay you to watch. I imagine it's more that nobody WOULD pay you to watch. I know I'd take the million and sit in rapt attention the whole time. But nobody is offering.
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And that's the great thing! I was listening to something on the radio today about personality, including intro- vs extroversion, and I thought about how great it is that I can do my solitary rides to my heart's content and not mind riding alone, while more sociable folks, can do group rides, and we're all having a blast in our own ways. Similarly, you can be a racer and constantly competing against others, or you can just compete against yourself, or you can go out for a dawdle when the wildflowers are blooming just for grins.
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I will admit to being quite old and/or outta touch. The last Rap song I really liked was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kjeWGQ175g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kjeWGQ175g
"Stabbed that man right in his heart...."
Several years ago, the group member know as Kidd Creole (the short guy in the photo, real name Nathaniel Glover) was charged with murder after he stabbed a homeless man to death during an altercation. Glover is not to be confused with August Darnell, front man of Kid Creole & the Coconuts.
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I have noticed that years of riding on my own have made me a lousy ride leader for group rides, though. Half the time I look around and they're 100 yards behind, and the other half they're right on my wheel. Let's just say I don't tend to set a stable pace.
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Oh, 'been there. I've had to do quite a bit of apologizing when joining group rides after thousands of miles of solo riding. Sometimes it's pace, sometimes it's line, sometimes it's neglecting to call out a hazard, etc.
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Considered my many to be the one of the best rap songs ever.
"Stabbed that man right in his heart...."
Several years ago, the group member know as Kidd Creole (the short guy in the photo, real name Nathaniel Glover) was charged with murder after he stabbed a homeless man to death during an altercation. Glover is not to be confused with August Darnell, front man of Kid Creole & the Coconuts.
"Stabbed that man right in his heart...."
Several years ago, the group member know as Kidd Creole (the short guy in the photo, real name Nathaniel Glover) was charged with murder after he stabbed a homeless man to death during an altercation. Glover is not to be confused with August Darnell, front man of Kid Creole & the Coconuts.
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Since I am a pothole and rock magnet, the best thing for anyone following me is to ride a line 6" or so to either side of mine. Seriously! Yesterday, TWICE I was just riding along and *WHAM!* I hit the only pothole on that stretch of road. I was surprised I didn't flat.
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Better than 5/6. WAY better than 6/6.
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