Anybody care about secrecy on your bike?
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No to the OP. But then I've got other pursuits in life so don't fixate on my bike/cycling.
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I escaped from the Illinois Department of Corrections in 2004.
By riding bike, left in a prearranged hiding place, I was able to get out of the county before they even started looking for me.
It has been 20 years now with no police interactions in my life because I live a bicycle only life!
---SO--- I do indeed enjoy the secrecy of my bike!!!!!
By riding bike, left in a prearranged hiding place, I was able to get out of the county before they even started looking for me.
It has been 20 years now with no police interactions in my life because I live a bicycle only life!
---SO--- I do indeed enjoy the secrecy of my bike!!!!!
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I'm not doing anything nefarious on my rides and I don't care about secrecy per se... but I like the simplicity of bikes. It's so much easier to just get around because there are more options (road, bikepath, dirt trail, field/forest shortcut, etc. etc.).
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My phone is with me on rides but location is always off unless needed.
My driver's license and credit card are both in foil-backed paper sleeves that are designed for RFID shielding.
If reporters are filming video on the street, I avoid getting in shot.
I never post face pics on here or anywhere else online.
I stopped using credit card for nearly all purchases locally 10 years ago, due to known tracking.
My discount card for the grocery store is under a fake name.
I pay cash for meds; Pharmacies and medical are covered under HIPAA, credit card records are not.
My medical files at my doctors are on "lockdown", someone needs to "break the glass" to access, which is recorded.
I have my credit locked down at all three credit agencies, making it impossible for someone to open credit in my name.
I use Duck Duck Go as a browser.
I don't use Facebook.
I don't allow others to post info or pics of me on Facebook.
I use TOR when needed.
I "opt out".
I don't give to causes (such as political candidates) via credit card, I always mail them a check.
I don't open more credit cards than I need, no matter how much they offer me to do so ($250 for Chase, $100 for REI, etc). There's a reason they are willing to pay for that.
I don't give my social security number at dentist and medical when they ask; I inform them that under federal law they cannot demand that, and they stop asking.
"His checks bounce because his signature varies. He's a class act." - Joe Cutter, Hopscotch (1980)
My driver's license and credit card are both in foil-backed paper sleeves that are designed for RFID shielding.
If reporters are filming video on the street, I avoid getting in shot.
I never post face pics on here or anywhere else online.
I stopped using credit card for nearly all purchases locally 10 years ago, due to known tracking.
My discount card for the grocery store is under a fake name.
I pay cash for meds; Pharmacies and medical are covered under HIPAA, credit card records are not.
My medical files at my doctors are on "lockdown", someone needs to "break the glass" to access, which is recorded.
I have my credit locked down at all three credit agencies, making it impossible for someone to open credit in my name.
I use Duck Duck Go as a browser.
I don't use Facebook.
I don't allow others to post info or pics of me on Facebook.
I use TOR when needed.
I "opt out".
I don't give to causes (such as political candidates) via credit card, I always mail them a check.
I don't open more credit cards than I need, no matter how much they offer me to do so ($250 for Chase, $100 for REI, etc). There's a reason they are willing to pay for that.
I don't give my social security number at dentist and medical when they ask; I inform them that under federal law they cannot demand that, and they stop asking.
"His checks bounce because his signature varies. He's a class act." - Joe Cutter, Hopscotch (1980)
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Yeah that always irked me, repetitively redundant. So is "heat transfer".
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My phone is with me on rides but location is always off unless needed.
My driver's license and credit card are both in foil-backed paper sleeves that are designed for RFID shielding.
If reporters are filming video on the street, I avoid getting in shot.
I never post face pics on here or anywhere else online.
I stopped using credit card for nearly all purchases locally 10 years ago, due to known tracking.
My discount card for the grocery store is under a fake name.
I pay cash for meds; Pharmacies and medical are covered under HIPAA, credit card records are not.
My medical files at my doctors are on "lockdown", someone needs to "break the glass" to access, which is recorded.
I have my credit locked down at all three credit agencies, making it impossible for someone to open credit in my name.
I use Duck Duck Go as a browser.
I don't use Facebook.
I don't allow others to post info or pics of me on Facebook.
I use TOR when needed.
I "opt out".
I don't give to causes (such as political candidates) via credit card, I always mail them a check.
I don't open more credit cards than I need, no matter how much they offer me to do so ($250 for Chase, $100 for REI, etc). There's a reason they are willing to pay for that.
I don't give my social security number at dentist and medical when they ask; I inform them that under federal law they cannot demand that, and they stop asking.
"His checks bounce because his signature varies. He's a class act." - Joe Cutter, Hopscotch (1980)
My driver's license and credit card are both in foil-backed paper sleeves that are designed for RFID shielding.
If reporters are filming video on the street, I avoid getting in shot.
I never post face pics on here or anywhere else online.
I stopped using credit card for nearly all purchases locally 10 years ago, due to known tracking.
My discount card for the grocery store is under a fake name.
I pay cash for meds; Pharmacies and medical are covered under HIPAA, credit card records are not.
My medical files at my doctors are on "lockdown", someone needs to "break the glass" to access, which is recorded.
I have my credit locked down at all three credit agencies, making it impossible for someone to open credit in my name.
I use Duck Duck Go as a browser.
I don't use Facebook.
I don't allow others to post info or pics of me on Facebook.
I use TOR when needed.
I "opt out".
I don't give to causes (such as political candidates) via credit card, I always mail them a check.
I don't open more credit cards than I need, no matter how much they offer me to do so ($250 for Chase, $100 for REI, etc). There's a reason they are willing to pay for that.
I don't give my social security number at dentist and medical when they ask; I inform them that under federal law they cannot demand that, and they stop asking.
"His checks bounce because his signature varies. He's a class act." - Joe Cutter, Hopscotch (1980)
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Anybody care about secrecy on your bike?
Still, with the grossly increasing costs of such products it's heartening to know that at least some of the components have serial numbers. Not that having any of it "registered" really does me good ... until it's stolen and later recovered. Though, the whole time, "registered" or not, I've got the receipts and have documented the numbers, and thus I can prove I'm the owner, even if I only supply a partial along with photos and contact info to the numerous bike shops in my area. Not that it's the business of a shop to double-check lists against every used bike that comes through the shop for servicing.
For those who don't care about doing that sort of thing, I suppose registering the number ahead of time with "the authorities" is the typical thing to do. (Beyond whatever ordinances/laws might require be done.)
In the end, it probably doesn't make all that much difference. Such a great portion of so-called "modern" life is corrupted beyond repair with such tracking, tracing, documenting of a person's business and goings-on. About the only way to avoid the mess involving a bike is to buy with cash, never take a tracking device along on rides, buy all components and add-ons with cash, and to never "register" the thing with gov't, something increasingly harder to do as the prices go up on new equipment.
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Corruption certainly pre-dates the internet and you might note that the most corrupt of government regimes actively restrict public internet access and content.
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And the issue doesn't come from us. It comes from the devices and the people who'd leverage such ubiquity against us. In short, it's not us "making it an issue." It's the issue being made upon those targeted, tracked.
Is what it is. AKA, the "modern" world. Irrespective of the benefits of such abilities.
That said, it's simple enough to not participiate with such devices via not acquiring them, not using them on journeys, not "registering" things or signing-up for things where tracking/analyzing our goings-on are specifically "authorized" by such. Like the OP suggested, a bicycle's one of those things that is fairly simple, fairly inexpensive (if pre-owned), easily acquired/sold with cash, easily operated without registration, documentation or tracking/GPS/cell.
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And the issue doesn't come from us. It comes from the devices and the people who'd leverage such ubiquity against us. In short, it's not us "making it an issue." It's the issue being made upon those targeted, tracked.
That said, it's simple enough to not participiate with such devices via not acquiring them, not using them on journeys, not "registering" things or signing-up for things where tracking/analyzing our goings-on are specifically "authorized" by such.
That said, it's simple enough to not participiate with such devices via not acquiring them, not using them on journeys, not "registering" things or signing-up for things where tracking/analyzing our goings-on are specifically "authorized" by such.
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About the only way to avoid the mess involving a bike is to buy with cash, never take a tracking device along on rides, buy all components and add-ons with cash, and to never "register" the thing with gov't, something increasingly harder to do as the prices go up on new equipment.
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The people who believe the government is tracking them usually seem to be the people in whom the government would be least interested.