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Old 05-25-16, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by providencebikes
so the guy at the non profit bike shop showed me i have a really decent back cassete its 8 speeds 10 teeth on the highest gear , but he said my hangar and derailer are a little bent our of place im going to upgrade the front , i have a triple , do you guys ever mess with your crank arm length , if possible , shorter or longer make any difference for you
Please tell us the make of your cassette as I for one have never heard of a ten teeth cog.

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Old 05-25-16, 07:22 PM
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What about with no clothes. More aero.
You haven't seen my legs.
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
A Yugo, even if it has a Ferrari transmission in it, still isn't going to go 200 MPH.
^^^ this. You first need to figure out what your max sustained speed is, then determine what gear you'll require to to that speed at your 'ideal' cadence, and then from there you need to determine how many gears *above* that you want to keep as reserves in case of downhills and tailwinds (if any.) There is no perfect gear set, only a good one for your power capacity and aerodynamics.

For me, I try to keep one gear higher than what I can sustain in a short flat sprint (if that's not redundant to say.) That's in case of tailwind or downhill. I hate running out of gears.
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Originally Posted by chaadster
Hahaha! Poor Yugo...the car was only around in the USA for like 5 years, but even 25 years after its demise, it's still the archetype for slowest, cheapest, worst car imaginable! All of which was actually true, but still...
Well, yes, but then it never had to compete with the Travant for our affections.
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Old 05-25-16, 09:28 PM
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Shame on anyone that replied to this pile of feces; for any reason.
Myself included ofc
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Originally Posted by Miele Man
Please tell us the make of your cassette as I for one have never heard of a ten teeth cog.

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Probably an 11T or 12T on a standard 8 speed cassette.

SRAM puts a 10T on many of their MTB cassettes. But, with a huge sprocket range, and I don't believe in 8s.
https://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/p...-dome-cassette

There are a few small wheel parts that also incorporate a 9T or 10T sprocket including the Shimano Capreo (9s). I think I also encountered a modified Campy cassette somewhere using a 10s small sprocket for small wheel bikes.

Any of them can be built into a road bike. But it doesn't just happen by accident.

Whether going to 9, 10, 11, or 12T is beneficial on a road bike is something that one can argue until they are blue in the face.

The benefits on small wheeled bikes is that they compensate for the wheel size, and allow using more standard chainrings. On an MTB, the smaller sprockets allow a greater gearing range while keeping the size of the derailleur in check.

1 to 4.2 gearing: 10-42 (32T) <==> 11-46 (35T) <==> 12-50 (38T)
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Old 05-26-16, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
Well, yes, but then it never had to compete with the Travant for our affections.
Is that the car that didn't come with a reverse gear?
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Old 05-26-16, 09:09 AM
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So being kind of a numbers guy, I ran some numbers on this 30mph business. There were some claims here that this requires 650 or 700 watts. Three different online calculators tell me it's more like 500 to 550. I don't know what to trust. Those calculators seem to work well to me. Anyway, at 600 W to reach 30mph at 90 rpm requires an average force on a pedal with 170mm crank arm of 38 kgf (the "weight" of 38kg or 372N if you prefer, it's 83 lbs if you like imperial units).

That's a pretty big force to be pushing around with one leg at that speed. Sure you could try to spin at 130 instead. Good luck pushing 26kg (57 lbs) around at more than twice a second per foot. These are essentially single leg numbers. Think of pressing 76 kg (167 lbs) on leg press machine. 8 reps is fine.. easy. Now do it 90 times in a minute.

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Old 05-26-16, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Miele Man
Please tell us the make of your cassette as I for one have never heard of a ten teeth cog.
Shimano Capreo cassette and freehub . CS-HG70-s Cassette 9-10-11-13-15-17-20-23-26 tooth sprockets.

+ the exclusive hub to use it: FH-700 Freehub. they are produced for Mini velos and folding bikes with small wheels like 451 - 20"

The Shimano Capreo hub and Cassette
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
Is that the car that didn't come with a reverse gear?
The Messerschmitt KR175 had an ingenious reverse.

It had a 1-cyclinder engine that could be run forward or in reverse. So, to go backwards, simply stop the engine and start it backwards. Thus, the 4 forward speeds become 4 reverse speeds
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