Vintage Peugeot
#76
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Thanks Trakhak : my approach for years was the same as you suggest; finally invested in the right tool only to find some older cranks don’t give enough clearance for a totally straight shot at the pin.
And the pin wasn’t bent much - I was just venting because the purpose of the tool is to prevent exactly such damage. I did straighten it.
And the pin wasn’t bent much - I was just venting because the purpose of the tool is to prevent exactly such damage. I did straighten it.
#77
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I need to buy the special tool to remove the fixed cup. Does anyone have experience with this one from Walmart? Is
36 mm is the correct size?
36 mm is the correct size?
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For many of us, the preferred bottom bracket tool is a bolt, nut, and two washers -- see SheldonBrown.com.
Scroll down to Fixed Cup Tools: https://sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/bbcups.html
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
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You might be better going to Harbor Freight and getting a super sized adjustable that you can bolt to the frame while you wrench it around.
I ended up buying a combo wrench from amazon in each of 32, 35 and 36 mms for just this situation. I secure it with a bolt and washers coming through and outside the BB and go to town (Kroil first). So far 98% success.
I ended up buying a combo wrench from amazon in each of 32, 35 and 36 mms for just this situation. I secure it with a bolt and washers coming through and outside the BB and go to town (Kroil first). So far 98% success.
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#80
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While I don’t recommend it, one can also lock the fixed cup in a bench vise and unscrew the cup using the frame itself for leverage. Tricky to manage but it does work. DAMHIK.
Those who are frugal can always find a way!
Those who are frugal can always find a way!
#81
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Congratulations RustyPeugeot with all the progress you've made.
I have this Park fixed cup tool but it's a bit pricey.
They have one by Bikehand for about $17.
One tip I learned, probably on this forum, when removing a particularly tight fixed cup and to avoid slippage of the thin fixed cup tool I insert my headset press through the bottom bracket and snug it up to hold the cup tool in place. Once the fixed cup has broken free remove the headset press.
I think you'll find all your efforts worth it when you start riding your vintage Peugeot.
I have a 1978 UO10 that I rebuilt into what I call an urban cruiser and I love riding it .
I linked a thread on my build.
Good luck with completing yours and I hope you enjoy riding it.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...n-cruiser.html
I have this Park fixed cup tool but it's a bit pricey.
They have one by Bikehand for about $17.
One tip I learned, probably on this forum, when removing a particularly tight fixed cup and to avoid slippage of the thin fixed cup tool I insert my headset press through the bottom bracket and snug it up to hold the cup tool in place. Once the fixed cup has broken free remove the headset press.
I think you'll find all your efforts worth it when you start riding your vintage Peugeot.
I have a 1978 UO10 that I rebuilt into what I call an urban cruiser and I love riding it .
I linked a thread on my build.
Good luck with completing yours and I hope you enjoy riding it.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...n-cruiser.html
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#82
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Still trying to buy a correct bottom bracket spindle that is for sale in the USA. Will this one work?
Bottom Bracket
Bottom Bracket
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#83
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Progress tonight. Got the bottom bracket axle out of the rusty white bike and compared it to the 3S axle from the blue bike.
The B dimension between the bearings was 54 mm on the cotter pin rusty white axle.
The B dimension was 52 mm on the 3S blue bike axle.
As recommended by markk900, I need an axle with a 54 or 55 mm B dimension.
Only problem is I can’t find any in the USA. Haha
The B dimension between the bearings was 54 mm on the cotter pin rusty white axle.
The B dimension was 52 mm on the 3S blue bike axle.
As recommended by markk900, I need an axle with a 54 or 55 mm B dimension.
Only problem is I can’t find any in the USA. Haha
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Have you looked for an axle with female threading -- ie one that takes bolts rather than nuts to mount the crankarms? They should be easier to find, I would think.
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I am having a lot of trouble finding a bottom bracket for the Blue UO-8. Velo Orange has french bottom brackets, but the 122 size is out of stock. If there's a place to buy other sealed bottom brackets with French threads, can someone let me know? I'm not seeing any Shimano bottom brackets with French threads, but maybe I don't know where to look.
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I am having a lot of trouble finding a bottom bracket for the Blue UO-8. Velo Orange has french bottom brackets, but the 122 size is out of stock. If there's a place to buy other sealed bottom brackets with French threads, can someone let me know? I'm not seeing any Shimano bottom brackets with French threads, but maybe I don't know where to look.
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Time to buy a new chain. Is the chain sold in a specific length? Do they come longer and I just need to shorten it to the correct size? Is buying from Amazon reasonable, or is there a better alternative on-line site?
Looks like my special tool to remove the freewheel is arriving in the mail today from Greece/Bulgaria.
Looks like my special tool to remove the freewheel is arriving in the mail today from Greece/Bulgaria.
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https://www.amazon.com/RUBY-Q-Multi-Function-Mechanic-Breaker-Reusable/dp/B097SNNZQF/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=VT70LTLXIEEW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.sVuhTNx8Yub9M5rsdR2WKMSrc6U5Fr2G-BPeqTNLp6w_gZqDODRkmM0DA41KLbJvUVXS-2ruGi768o3lPrFmK2HXBdzb0udKGGHJkVuODssq8btK5VWXjvbW0lppMzfHrBOwCn77OSE9WbgjFbuyGVVGP6lAFWuXBdj6CbARKbJ3xAAV6aeMfUypdxJhMKvpe6_kZutq79wmV-V2qnZClw.qeVHM73k9iPRTcNJf_Vxni3Lg4ho6WxRpJIITmzYIFU&dib_tag=se&keywords=ruby%2Bq%2Bbicycle%2Bchain%2Band%2Bbreaker%2Btool&qid=1717774983&sprefix=ruby%2Bq%2Bbicycle%2Bchain%2Band%2Bbreaker%2Btool%2Caps%2C230&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1
I've used these chains with success.
If you don't have the chain tool a basic one is included.
It works ok but of course no comparison with the nice Park tool version.
Another bonus with the above kit are the extra quick links and link pliers.
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Sweet! cooperryder Thanks for the link!
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I’ve been using this chain breaker since 1972….
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I was glad to help! It's always good to find a use for old parts that no longer have a place on your own bikes.
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I already owned the ultrasonic cleaner and vibrating tumbler polisher because I use them for my pinball machine hobby. It's cool when useful tools cross over to different hobbies. The ultrasonic cleaner is amazing. 50% solution of simple green and water and ultrasonic the parts for 15 minutes. The vibrating tumbler is magic. The tumbler media is crushed walnut shells, which is a substrate for pet reptile habitats. Toss the parts into the tumbler and squirt in a liquid polish compound of your choice. I hear Mother's mag wheel cleaner is amazing. I'm impatient and usually only tumble/polish things for 2 or 3 hours.
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24 spline freewheel tool came in the mail today. Removed a spoke from the rusty white bike and installed it in the blue UO8. I must have tightened the spoke too much because the rear wheel has a big wobble now.
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