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A friend of mine has had about 5 concussions in the past 2 years I think. She’s been hit by a car twice and has had some other crashes. She didn’t race langley because she was recovering from a concussion. She raced on Sunday and had a terrible crash. Have not heard the cause but one of our team mates was behind her and went down as well. She got another concussion. Sounded like she was knocked out. I reached out to her and she says she’s okay. Crazy. I think I found someone that crashes more than me.
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A friend of mine has had about 5 concussions in the past 2 years I think. She’s been hit by a car twice and has had some other crashes. She didn’t race langley because she was recovering from a concussion. She raced on Sunday and had a terrible crash. Have not heard the cause but one of our team mates was behind her and went down as well. She got another concussion. Sounded like she was knocked out. I reached out to her and she says she’s okay. Crazy. I think I found someone that crashes more than me.
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Ha! Just learned that one of the hiring managers at the new place is a buddy of mine. That bastard owes me a beer.
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Good luck to him. Sounds like he's been through a lot of frustration. 8 surgeries! That's horrible. Supposedly they won't do the permanent implant unless he gets at least 50% improvement. Even that should help. Let's hope for as near as 100% as possible. A lot of patients get off of pain meds or reduced a lot.
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sounds like its time for a new sport
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4:30 AM wake up call for me tomorrow morning, gotta get the TT bike ready (and associated gear) for TTT practice at 6 AM on Fiesta Island. Hopefully we have a low key evening and the child permits us some sleep (yeah right...)
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Originally Posted by genejockey;[url=tel:23196005
23196005[/url]]That could be my sister who lives in Florida now. She's one of those who puts on a sweater when it gets down into the 70s.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS;[url=tel:23196009
23196009[/url]]My Neurosurgeon gave the ok for me to have the high frequency spinal cord stimulation procedure. He also gave 1 Doctor recommendation though I asked for 2. He was quick to respond and seems like a guy that looks out for the best interest of the patient. Now I have to make decisions. I could be a few months away from relief. Not everyone responds to the procedure.
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Good luck to him. Sounds like he's been through a lot of frustration. 8 surgeries! That's horrible. Supposedly they won't do the permanent implant unless he gets at least 50% improvement. Even that should help. Let's hope for as near as 100% as possible. A lot of patients get off of pain meds or reduced a lot.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS;[url=tel:23196059
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If the plane is moving at 100 knots in a 100 knot tailwind, how could the wings generate any lift?
I don't know the answers to these things other than what I've experienced sailing. For example, if I'm going dead down wind in a sailboat at 3 knots in a 3 knot wind, then I'm just getting pushed and the sails (foils) are not generating any lift.
I don't know the answers to these things other than what I've experienced sailing. For example, if I'm going dead down wind in a sailboat at 3 knots in a 3 knot wind, then I'm just getting pushed and the sails (foils) are not generating any lift.
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Found out the other day, while listening to my new favorite pod cast, that the serial killer in my area is indeed dead. Kind of reassuring since I am usually on the parkway alone in the dark. Now I have to find something else to think about while I ride.
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Ok, first the Pilot was onboard, but they consider that role as a consultant. Captain still has ultimate authority at all times.
After watching the video a few times and looking at the ECDIS tracks this was definitely a mechanical failure in the main plant of the vessel. That being said, main systems like STEERING are always on a battery backup system. You could have a complete blackout of the vessel and have full control of the rudder. We see black smoke pouring out of the stack of the ship when she got power back, this was almost certainly the bridge throwing it into full astern, and by that time one of the hooks was on its way to the bottom would be my guess. Worst possible situation to be in for a shiphandler Here are my views:
Lost main propulsion, but steering was on back-up power which means you had a rudder. She was already lined up for going under the bridge. 8.5 knots on a 7-hatch 15,000 TEU containership will take you quite a ways. Why didn't they coast past the bridge first?
Throwing it into reverse seems like a good option right? These vessels are single screw, with a BIG prop. If anyone has ever maneuvered a big prop vessel you know what happens when you throw it in astern. Does the vessel stop immediately? No, and your stern starts walking like a mother****er one way or another depending on if you have a right-handed or left-handed screw. Exhibit A is the video. Right after the smoke pours out of the stack she swings to starboard towards the span she hit. That's because her prop sucked the stern to port at a good rate since it was at high RPMs.
Tugs are a good idea, but not practical at anything over 4 knots. Most tugs highest speed is 8 knots, tugs wouldn't have made a difference here. Bow thrusters don't do **** past 2 knots either.
I am not one to armchair quarterback these situations as I was not on the bridge. However, it is apparent the better course of action (the one I would have done myself) was this:
Lose power as you're lined up to go under the bridge at 8 knots. Verify you still have steering, 8 knots is more than enough water going over the rudder for steerage. At least get through the bridge then run her ass aground to deal with the main plant loss problem. Even if the wind starts slowing you down and pushing you towards one of the spans it is WAY better to brush along a span with the side of the ship then hit it the way they did.
But as I said I was not on the bridge, and do not have all the factors that they were going through.
Lost main propulsion, but steering was on back-up power which means you had a rudder. She was already lined up for going under the bridge. 8.5 knots on a 7-hatch 15,000 TEU containership will take you quite a ways. Why didn't they coast past the bridge first?
Throwing it into reverse seems like a good option right? These vessels are single screw, with a BIG prop. If anyone has ever maneuvered a big prop vessel you know what happens when you throw it in astern. Does the vessel stop immediately? No, and your stern starts walking like a mother****er one way or another depending on if you have a right-handed or left-handed screw. Exhibit A is the video. Right after the smoke pours out of the stack she swings to starboard towards the span she hit. That's because her prop sucked the stern to port at a good rate since it was at high RPMs.
Tugs are a good idea, but not practical at anything over 4 knots. Most tugs highest speed is 8 knots, tugs wouldn't have made a difference here. Bow thrusters don't do **** past 2 knots either.
I am not one to armchair quarterback these situations as I was not on the bridge. However, it is apparent the better course of action (the one I would have done myself) was this:
Lose power as you're lined up to go under the bridge at 8 knots. Verify you still have steering, 8 knots is more than enough water going over the rudder for steerage. At least get through the bridge then run her ass aground to deal with the main plant loss problem. Even if the wind starts slowing you down and pushing you towards one of the spans it is WAY better to brush along a span with the side of the ship then hit it the way they did.
But as I said I was not on the bridge, and do not have all the factors that they were going through.
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