Exercise and depression
10-31-14, 03:17 PM
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Stating that certain treatments "are all beneficial" is demonstrably false and attaches blame to people who are still depressed despite years of struggle.
I prefer neutral terms whenever possible (e.g. depression vs mental illness/disorder).
Is there a term you prefer?
10-31-14, 03:28 PM
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As someone who has PTSD i can say that days i'm not riding are noticably more difficult than days that i do ride to get through.
As my rear wheel popped a third spoke in 4 months and no way to transport the thing on my own to the shop, i'm not looking forward to this down time which may be 2-3 weeks. I'm just glad the shop is closer & easier to get to on foot/via transit to go pick it up. I'll likely ride it home...
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As my rear wheel popped a third spoke in 4 months and no way to transport the thing on my own to the shop, i'm not looking forward to this down time which may be 2-3 weeks. I'm just glad the shop is closer & easier to get to on foot/via transit to go pick it up. I'll likely ride it home...
- Andy
10-31-14, 04:12 PM
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Here, have a Danish:
10-31-14, 04:15 PM
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Good to know from someone on the inside with no possible motive or bias. Thank you.
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So... before it was designed.... but NOW it evolved?!?!
Like there are no competitors in the medical arts?!?!?
Unlike... say this very forum where you post?!?!?
Not true... only humans own money and make investments. Some people try to dehumanize other people.... but that's a whole different thread.
No... I really don't think that happens. Strange idea you have... that it does.... and I've heard it before from the bitter and those that feel shut-out from life. So sorry you feel that way.
And... your saying you've done a LOT of business in the old USA? You wouldn't happen to be Bill Gates or somebody would you?
Like there are no competitors in the medical arts?!?!?
And... your saying you've done a LOT of business in the old USA? You wouldn't happen to be Bill Gates or somebody would you?
10-31-14, 09:21 PM
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Nah. Called manufacturer. They may cover stiffer rim & 36 new spokes. It was a delight dealing with them on the phone. It may take 2-3 weeks to get the rim spokes, rebuild the wheel, test it at shop etc. Better done right than quick and wrong.
- Andy
- Andy
11-01-14, 09:26 AM
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Well that's a modest improvement in your tone but the evidence is actually conflicted -- with studies finding little or no effect. Moreover, there is an emerging consensus that exercise has little impact on the affect of those suffering from severe depression.
Many people consider telling a person suffering form cancer what they should do (or should have done) to be insulting but when someone is living with a "mental disorder" it's fair game to preach that a bit of exercise, a diet change, or "will power" will fix them right up. This pisses me off on the internet and in person.
Many people consider telling a person suffering form cancer what they should do (or should have done) to be insulting but when someone is living with a "mental disorder" it's fair game to preach that a bit of exercise, a diet change, or "will power" will fix them right up. This pisses me off on the internet and in person.
11-01-14, 09:59 AM
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not to hijack this thread, I have had a similar problem and just purchased a double wall, 36 hole wheel... I will let you know how it goes...
11-01-14, 10:41 AM
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This is a totally valid view IMO, and one I happen to share with you. There's certainly a fair share of corruption in the medical 'industry' but one shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Depression is a serious condition and treatment is a complicated issue.
Exercise IS a way of boosting one's mood. It certainly isn't a sole treatment for depression, but neither is medication. Therapy, will, medication, diet...lots of support, are all beneficial.
Exercise IS a way of boosting one's mood. It certainly isn't a sole treatment for depression, but neither is medication. Therapy, will, medication, diet...lots of support, are all beneficial.
11-01-14, 02:11 PM
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Well that's a modest improvement in your tone but the evidence is actually conflicted -- with studies finding little or no effect. Moreover, there is an emerging consensus that exercise has little impact on the affect of those suffering from severe depression.
Many people consider telling a person suffering form cancer what they should do (or should have done) to be insulting but when someone is living with a "mental disorder" it's fair game to preach that a bit of exercise, a diet change, or "will power" will fix them right up. This pisses me off on the internet and in person.
Many people consider telling a person suffering form cancer what they should do (or should have done) to be insulting but when someone is living with a "mental disorder" it's fair game to preach that a bit of exercise, a diet change, or "will power" will fix them right up. This pisses me off on the internet and in person.
(Not to mention lighter...)
But of course, the plural of anecdote is NOT data.
11-01-14, 02:38 PM
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My N+1 is that exercise and diet definitely make a difference for severe depression. Tried for 6 years seeing a psychiatrist every two months to find a good medication regimen, but to no avail. Counseling was hit or miss. But buying a bike, riding it every day and making an effort to eat better at the beginning of the year? Can't even begin to describe how much better I am.
(Not to mention lighter...)
But of course, the plural of anecdote is NOT data.
(Not to mention lighter...)
But of course, the plural of anecdote is NOT data.
