tomato coupe

He hired some kids to yell at the clouds for him ... but now they're doing it from his lawn.

Eric F 

I just had this conversation with a friend. I find it sad that so many people only want to hear music that they are already familiar with, and shut off their willingness to keep exploring new artists, but this is pretty common.

My daughter (currently 18yo) and I spent a LOT of time over a lot of years in the car together traveling for her softball events. I made the conscious decision to be open to the kind of music she was into. Some I didn't like, and some I was indifferent to, but there is a lot that really enjoy. Likewise, I introduced my daughter to music that I like (old and new). Her reactions were the same. In my mid-50's, I'm still finding new music that excites me, including entire genres that I didn't really enjoy very much in the past. There is some stuff that I strongly dislike, but that's the thing about music. There is something for everyone!

Kontact

Because you dont use them much, and probably never in the rain.

CrimsonEclipse

Come back when you're a REAL cyclist!

shelbyfv

Now we can add college to the list of things about which OP knows nothing....

jon c. 

Bicycles have changed a great deal in the 50+ years I've been riding. If there was resistance to change, it was rather unsuccessful.

But the thread got a lot of posts and that was the apparent goal.

SurferRosa

Discovering new music is often wonderful and enlightening, but I don't find it "sad" that some embrace only their own known music. Take classic 1920s-1960s jazz. There are lifetimes of recordings that one can absorb, discover and rediscover. If that's your passion, that's not "sad" at all. That's to be celebrated.

njkayaker

Bicycle racing isn't really about who has the best technology.

Who actually is saying this? Anyway, people can claim all sorts of things. You don't have to listen to them.

big john

Some of the thread has been fun.

Eric F 

The close-minded "today's music sucks" attitude that tends to grow with age is what I find sad. That said, chasing the trails of the musicians who influenced our favorite artists can be a spectacular journey.

Eric F 

No one is saying it but Rydabent.

big john

That's not what he was talking about. I worked with a guy who listened to the Oldies station, like 50s to early 60s oldies. The same 12 songs all day every day. For years and years. Drove me crazy.
A friend turned me on to jazz in high school, more than 50 years ago now and I will always be grateful for that. I also like to hear new stuff and listen to a station here which plays local bands.
There is music I hate, but I'm not going to tell people who like it that it isn't music.

Rolla

You and that wolf kid keep making this ludicrous assertion, yet neither of you can ever point to an example of it actually occurring. Are you guys a pair of socks or are you having some kind of mutual hallucination?

prj71

He's not wrong. I see it happen often in public settings when bikers get together.

Rolla

Can't argue with that kind of ironclad evidence.

tomato coupe

So, you see one group of cyclists shaming another group of cyclists because their bikes and clothes don't cost enough? Are you in junior high school?

Rolla

Evidently, this persecution complex is contagious.

seypat

He might not be that far off. I'd have to check the prices, but if a person has to have:

Carbon frame, Ti or modern steel
Disc brakes
Ultegra level or above and or electronic shifting

How much does that add up to? On top of that, most don't like the stock wheelsets, so they get an upgrade there. Add all that up and 5k could be close. I'm not saying it is, but it could be.

seypat

Here you go. What does 5k get you?

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/p...ce-road-bikes/

phughes

Looks like a cut and paste job from an explanation of hard shifting on a motorcycle, whose transmission does have shift forks.

Eric F 

Based on other posts by the same user, and the profile link to a YouTube channel with the same type of nonsense, it appears to be some sort of bot.

njkayaker

???

No one is saying people can't spend $5,000.

Look at what I was replying to more carefully:

seypat

The general tones of the threads in the road section, this thread and particularly the keeping my rim brake thread is that you do need/have to have the things I mentioned to be taken seriously. Will 5k even get you those things in one purchase?

big john

To be taken seriously? First, if someone says you have to buy something at a certain price point to be taken seriously why would you take that person seriously?

Koyote

When most people say, “I know what I like,” they really mean “I like what I know.”