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Old 07-31-15, 07:04 AM
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I've had my sworks for 4 years now with absolutely no desire to upgrade. Just replace BOA and insoles once a year and they're like new.
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Originally Posted by tetonrider
@shovelhd's point is a good one. on a per-hour basis -- and for how important they are -- the cost of good shoes amortizes down to nothing pretty quick.
And this is why Fudgy and I dropped a ton of cash on semi-custom Riivos.


Chappy, look on eBay for S-Works shoes. I got my wife road and mountain S-Works for $220 total. Road shoes were new, Mountain had been ridden a couple times. The person selling them bought both pairs, but found they weren't quite the right size. I just happened to find the auctions - it was two separate auctions - at just the right time and buy both pairs.

My wife loves them.
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Originally Posted by tetonrider
sounds like more of a problem with your order than the shoes.

for @echappist...if the SW is too spendy, they do make a pro version that is pretty similar, but i suspect at least part of the issue is getting a "value" (=sale) on whatever item, not the absolute cost.

too bad your feet are not a hair smaller...i could kick you a pair of my older ones with plenty of life left.
@shovelhd's point is a good one. on a per-hour basis -- and for how important they are -- the cost of good shoes amortizes down to nothing pretty quick.
you are correct. And i guess i'm being more choosy as my two pairs of DMT are still very serviceable (that's a total of $265 for two pairs, going back four years, though i had to spent $80 on replacement buckles for one of them). $225 is the most i'd like to spend on something new and with warranty, and i'm not sure i can still get all the lifetime warranty coverage if i go the ebay route

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And this is why Fudgy and I dropped a ton of cash on semi-custom Riivos.


Chappy, look on eBay for S-Works shoes. I got my wife road and mountain S-Works for $220 total. Road shoes were new, Mountain had been ridden a couple times. The person selling them bought both pairs, but found they weren't quite the right size. I just happened to find the auctions - it was two separate auctions - at just the right time and buy both pairs.

My wife loves them.
thanks for the suggestion. I have looked at ebay, but so far n deal that good.
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if anyone wants some Lakes or Bonts, 46w, just let me know. heavily used but totally usable.

edit: to be clear, you pay shipping and that's it. I'll even shake the spiders out.

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Old 07-31-15, 10:40 AM
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how do you like your Lake shoes? the CX237 is another i'm looking at
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Originally Posted by echappist
how do you like your Lake shoes? the CX237 is another i'm looking at
I hd cx401s and they were nice, if a little heavy. very plush shoe, nice leather all that.
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Old 07-31-15, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by echappist
how do you like your Lake shoes? the CX237 is another i'm looking at
I just got some Lake CX237's. I don't have a lot of miles on them yet, but they seem nice. My feet are fairly wide in front, but not at the heel. The Lakes in 43W's are a better fit for my feet than my previous Sidi Megas. The Sidi's were just barely wide enough but otherwise a little too big (had to put thicker insoles in them to take up excessive volume). The Lake's have a slightly roomier toe box which I like, and the two BOA dials are nice (I don't think I'd be happy with a shoe with just one).

The lakes are noticeably lighter than the Sidi's, and I like that the uppers are leather rather than that cheap, plasticky material Sidi uses. Time will tell on durability for the leather, though. They don't have as much arch support as I'd like (I have high arches); but no stock shoe does, which is while I'll probably go with full custom's at some point in the future (just not willing to spend the money on that right now, it's been an expensive year).
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Originally Posted by echappist
how do you like your Lake shoes? the CX237 is another i'm looking at
I had the 236. I did not like them. They fit well, but they were very heavy. The materials were thick, meaning they were quite warm. Also, the BOA system was a disaster. On the 236, the dial was behind the heal. I think that gave it too much slack in the cable. Basically, when I would pull up, the BOA would tighten across my toes while my heel would slide out of the shoe.

I know with the 237 the dial is moved to a more traditional location. I am not sure if that fixed the problem I experienced.
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Originally Posted by echappist
you are correct. And i guess i'm being more choosy as my two pairs of DMT are still very serviceable (that's a total of $265 for two pairs, going back four years, though i had to spent $80 on replacement buckles for one of them). $225 is the most i'd like to spend on something new and with warranty, and i'm not sure i can still get all the lifetime warranty coverage if i go the ebay route


thanks for the suggestion. I have looked at ebay, but so far n deal that good.
I bought my last pair of Spec shoes on their website. They were having a clearance on the previous year's model. So that's a possibility too.
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specialized shoes are great and if their wide size were like 20mm wider I would be all over them. Everyone's feet are different, but specialized shoes are basically the standard around here. Seem to fit a lot of people.
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Old 07-31-15, 02:28 PM
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I also like my north wave mtb shoes for cross.
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Old 07-31-15, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tetonrider
I've been working with Virtualbox since the beta. Running a MacOS VM for WKO 4.0 is silly.
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Old 07-31-15, 07:53 PM
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I bought my first pair of SWorks shows for $125 used. They are my current rain shoes. 2008 with a single BOA. I bought my second pair of SWorks shoes, 2012, with dual BOA, for $150 used from a guy who rode them twice and they didn't fit. Then I had a BOA break. Warranty claim, got a new set of 2013 shoes. I had an issue with the toe box, and got a new set of 2014 under warranty. These are my current shoes. If they wear out and don't fail, I'll have no problem paying full price minus shop deal for a replacement. Can't beat SWorks warranty.
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Old 07-31-15, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
I've been working with Virtualbox since the beta. Running a MacOS VM for WKO 4.0 is silly.
as silly as running a Windows VM for WKO3?
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Old 07-31-15, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
if anyone wants some Lakes or Bonts, 46w, just let me know. heavily used but totally usable.

edit: to be clear, you pay shipping and that's it. I'll even shake the spiders out.
Fudgy, what style bonts are they?
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Old 08-01-15, 09:12 AM
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for bb30 cranks the wavy washer always goes on the non drive side, right?
/stupid question
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Old 08-01-15, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wens
for bb30 cranks the wavy washer always goes on the non drive side, right?
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On my BB30 cranks the washer is on the non drive side.
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Old 08-01-15, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge
On my BB30 cranks the washer is on the non drive side.
Same here, but SRM's are backwards.
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WRT shoes:
"if specialized ever makes lace ups I'll buy them instantly"
"uhh have you seen the 2016 specialized shoe line up"
"whelp. there goes my "these old sworks shoes can last through the 2016 season" mantra"
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Old 08-01-15, 02:58 PM
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Here's a really specific question, but what the heck. I'm supposed to pick up a powertap wheel which originally had the comp hub but was upgraded to G3 last year. I'm interested in getting the Bluetooth cap for it as its only $50 on their site now. According to the description it says upgraded pro and elite models can accept the cap but i was wondering if essentially any model with the new cap can accept the Bluetooth. I sent an email to saris but figured I'd ask here anyway!
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Old 08-01-15, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wens
for bb30 cranks the wavy washer always goes on the non drive side, right?
/stupid question
I think it depends. On Sram ones, it goes NDS. On Hollowgrams, it goes on the drive side.
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Old 08-01-15, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wens
for bb30 cranks the wavy washer always goes on the non drive side, right?
/stupid question
Not stupid. For a little less friction use spacers instead of a wave washer.
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Old 08-01-15, 08:48 PM
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Getting all the way to the end, these were sram cranks and they actually have a threaded bearing pre load adjustment set up, so no wavy washers.
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Old 08-01-15, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wens
Getting all the way to the end, these were sram cranks and they actually have a threaded bearing pre load adjustment set up, so no wavy washers.
yeah, all sram BB30s i've used have the preload adjuster. i haven't seen any in the last 2 model years, though.
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So if you have a SRAM BB30 crank (Red SRM) with a preload adjuster, you do not need the wavy washer? SRAM BB30 BB, and I have some plastic spacers.
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