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Old 01-19-21, 12:54 PM
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Are you also a belt and suspenders guy?


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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Vane steering is still relatively common on long-distance cruising boats because of the power requirements and failure potential of autopilots. From everything I've read, it works well, but I've never seen it in operation except on YouTube. On the other hand, any reasonably well designed boat (model or full scale) can be trimmed, under steady conditions, such that it requires very little steering input on most points of sail and there are solo ocean sailors who will simply bungie the tiller or wheel in position and go to sleep. The idea is to balance the tendency of the boat to head upwind against a few degrees of rudder in the opposite direction. No rocket science involved.
Wild. I know the ocean is big and the boat is small but I'd be constantly worried there was something out there in the way. I guess you've got to sleep sometime, though.

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The vane mentioned in that article is pretty much the same as the original vane self-steering systems used in full size boats. Mo is old enough that he may remember those. Some cruisers still use them; however, electronic auto-pilots have really taken over.

I'll bet he has "free sailed" his current boat as well as others. I've sailed mine for as much as 30-45 minutes without having to touch the tiller.

Edit: What Mo said.
I always enjoyed trimming out airplanes. Nothing I've ever flown was straight enough to fly totally hands off but they were at least close enough that you only needed a single finger on the yoke to compensate.
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Someone posted this and it made me hungry.


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Someone posted this and it made me retch.


Fixed it for me.
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Wild. I know the ocean is big and the boat is small but I'd be constantly worried there was something out there in the way. I guess you've got to sleep sometime, though.



I always enjoyed trimming out airplanes. Nothing I've ever flown was straight enough to fly totally hands off but they were at least close enough that you only needed a single finger on the yoke to compensate.
The ocean is big and the boat is small, but there is no shortage of things to hit in the water, be that whales or other marine life, shipping containers that have fallen off cargo boats, or other trash.

Airplane wings and boat sails work in virtually the exact same way. It's almost all about lift and stall. Some of the best sailors I've known are also pilots.
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It's been windy as all hell here, too. It has calmed down a bit, but MAN!!! Not sure I'd want to DRIVE in this, let alone ride.
Some shingles have come off the roof and the power has gone off briefly. My friend called me from the ride start, about 20 miles form here, and said wind is light there. That's why we go there on windy days, the mountains shield that area most of the time.
I declined the offer to go with him, will wait until tomorrow. My fitness is going to take a big hit with being sick for a week and not having much saddle time.
It's a dumb sport.
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Some shingles have come off the roof and the power has gone off briefly. My friend called me from the ride start, about 20 miles form here, and said wind is light there. That's why we go there on windy days, the mountains shield that area most of the time.
I declined the offer to go with him, will wait until tomorrow. My fitness is going to take a big hit with being sick for a week and not having much saddle time.
It's a dumb sport.
The wind blew the flue cap off our roof. I think it probably had been weakend/slightly detached by the furnace people, who built us a new flue for our water heater to replace the combined flue with the asbestos when the asbestos removal people were here last month.

Yesterday, the furnace people came to remove the furnace, so now we're down to ZERO HVAC system. Thursday, they start putting in the new system.
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The wind blew the flue cap off our roof. I think it probably had been weakend/slightly detached by the furnace people, who built us a new flue for our water heater to replace the combined flue with the asbestos when the asbestos removal people were here last month.

Yesterday, the furnace people came to remove the furnace, so now we're down to ZERO HVAC system. Thursday, they start putting in the new system.
Sounds like cuddle nights for you!
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Sounds like cuddle nights for you!
It's definitely not short sleeve jersey weather.
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Got my second covid shot.


I have an appointment for mine on the 27th and assurances that there will be vaccine available. LSS could get hers because she's licensed in the local jurisdictions, but since she is retired, she feels it would be unethical. Hope she can get it soon.
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I got my initial dose last week. Who knew mods were essential personnel?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Which one are you?
Currently. Belt.

BITD, when I was in banking, suspenders for my suits.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Someone posted this and it made me hungry.


I feel nothing.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Wait - does "store bought" include restaurants and pizzerias? If so, that's mind-blowing.

The kids are fond of chocolate shakes, too.
Yes, those are included. In our neck of the woods pizzarias weren't a thing, that I was aware of anyway. Prolly some around the college, but that was the next town over, and we only went there to shop, on Saturday morning. There were prolly as many Amish as non-Amish in our county. That kind of upbringing.
Think Floyd Landis.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Yes, those are included. In our neck of the woods pizzarias weren't a thing, that I was aware of anyway. Prolly some around the college, but that was the next town over, and we only went there to shop, on Saturday morning. There were prolly as many Amish as non-Amish in our county. That kind of upbringing.
Think Floyd Landis.
Wow. Crazy. Playing video games in the arcade at Godfather's Pizza, while waiting for our order, was a cornerstone of my yut.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I had one of those Stukas, much to the ironic bemusement of my German refugee and US WW2 vet father. I flew it once or twice and then killed it by taking the motor apart, after which it would never start again.
Dad bought his first training plane (WWII bomber pilot) as a control line plane. It was held together with rubber bands, for easy repair after crashing.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Are you also a belt and suspenders guy?


No. Though I have used both.
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Got my second covid shot.
Just got a reminder to get mine next week.
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I got my initial dose last week. Who knew mods were essential personnel?
Maybe you are just 1B and defective, while not being essential. That may be how I got mine.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
Yes, those are included. In our neck of the woods pizzarias weren't a thing, that I was aware of anyway. Prolly some around the college, but that was the next town over, and we only went there to shop, on Saturday morning. There were prolly as many Amish as non-Amish in our county. That kind of upbringing.
Think Floyd Landis.
My mother made pizza from scratch, took her hours. I may have had pizza from another source as a child but I don't remember it. We also never had soda drinks. I think the first time I had a soda was at my uncle's.
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Old 01-19-21, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Maybe you are just 1B and defective, while not being essential. That may be how I got mine.
I think in most of California people over 65 are eligible in the first wave but not in L.A. County.

I also found out today that one of the biggest deniers I know had Covid this summer. He didn't get super sick but it seems to have humbled him a bit and he shows a bit of empathy for the people who do get sick when before he said it was nothing more than a cold.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Fixed it for me.
How did they make that nifty cereal. It's a lost art.
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