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Old 12-28-23, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Frkl
The wing shifters are nice but expensive! On the other hand, Suntour Command shifters cost almost as much NOS.

I have been toying with the idea of just sticking a thumb shifter right under the brake lever. I actually think the geometry of the throw would work ok. It would be a low effort experiment since I already have a set modified for mounting on drops. maybe next time I rerwap my bars I'll give it a try...
You're right, they're expensive but not as much as the Suntour. Moreover the command shifter index to Suntour accushift RD . . . They are top from a design point of view, but not the function . . .

On the other hand, the Wing shifters offer microratcheting and THAT'S all the difference ! They shift so smooth, up to 11 speed !

Yeah, there has been experiments with alt. mounting of thumb shifters, I've seen a thread on that . . .
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Originally Posted by AeroFred
You're right, they're expensive but not as much as the Suntour. Moreover the command shifter index to Suntour accushift RD . . . They are top from a design point of view, but not the function . . .

On the other hand, the Wing shifters offer microratcheting and THAT'S all the difference ! They shift so smooth, up to 11 speed !

Yeah, there has been experiments with alt. mounting of thumb shifters, I've seen a thread on that . . .
The Suntour Commands had a friction option, both versions did. And the micro-ratchet was originally a Suntour design.
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Old 12-28-23, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Frkl
The Suntour Commands had a friction option, both versions did. And the micro-ratchet was originally a Suntour design.
I know I have one, but the friction option is not very effective . . . it's the same as indexed, just softer . . .

Well, yes, so why didn't they implement it further ?

Nowadays, the only options if you want micro-ratchet is to opt for Dia-Compe ! Or maybe Rivendell silver ?
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This one has been through several changes and shown here a few.

1990 Schwinn High Plains MTB built up with Shimano RSX drivetrain, Tektro canti brakes, Brooks Colt and a 7 sp wheel set off a 94 Schwinn MTB.

first shakedown ride is promising. Longer one and better pics this weekend.
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Old 12-29-23, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AeroFred
I know I have one, but the friction option is not very effective . . . it's the same as indexed, just softer . . .

Well, yes, so why didn't they implement it further ?

Nowadays, the only options if you want micro-ratchet is to opt for Dia-Compe ! Or maybe Rivendell silver ?
I converted my Command shifters to true friction eight years ago and they're still going strong. I followed the instructions in this thread; never had the 'looseness' problem the OP mentions. It's true that the rear shifter doesn't micro-ratchet. I wish the Wing shifters came in black and were $100 cheaper.
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Originally Posted by eeuuugh
I converted my Command shifters to true friction eight years ago and they're still going strong. I followed the instructions in this thread; never had the 'looseness' problem the OP mentions. It's true that the rear shifter doesn't micro-ratchet. I wish the Wing shifters came in black and were $100 cheaper.
And I'd like to find those indexing plates to convert the Command Shifters to 10s !
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Nice brakes, how do they perform ?
If I'm being honest, they are a big stop down in performance from the Deore XT dual pivot v-brakes that were on there before. I'd say they perform marginally better then the average Shimano or Avid cantis, but they are super light and look sweet.
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Finally got it racked and fendered. Before and after:




Happy New Year ! I love your build, so elegant !

Can you tell us more about the specifications ? Cranks, transmission, brakes, fenders, racks, etc...
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Fork Recommendations???

I'm in the process of converting a Trek Singletrack (26" wheels). It came with a suspension fork which is trashed and really heavy. I'd like to find a rigid replacement made of good quality steel (Tange, True Temper, etc). I'd even consider carbon. Most of what I've been able to find are forks weighing 1,100 g (2.4 pounds)!!!

I've looked on eBay but since the frame is 22", all of the used forks have steerer tubes that are too short.

Recommendations anyone?
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What size is the steerer on the original fork? If it is threaded, do you want to stick with a threaded fork, or would you convert to threadless?
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Originally Posted by NocoRider
I'm in the process of converting a Trek Singletrack (26" wheels). It came with a suspension fork which is trashed and really heavy. I'd like to find a rigid replacement made of good quality steel (Tange, True Temper, etc). I'd even consider carbon. Most of what I've been able to find are forks weighing 1,100 g (2.4 pounds)!!!

I've looked on eBay but since the frame is 22", all of the used forks have steerer tubes that are too short.

Recommendations anyone?
https://www.somafab.com/parts/forks
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Old 01-12-24, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NocoRider
I'm in the process of converting a Trek Singletrack (26" wheels). It came with a suspension fork which is trashed and really heavy. I'd like to find a rigid replacement made of good quality steel (Tange, True Temper, etc). I'd even consider carbon. Most of what I've been able to find are forks weighing 1,100 g (2.4 pounds)!!!

I've looked on eBay but since the frame is 22", all of the used forks have steerer tubes that are too short.

Recommendations anyone?
Do you have a co-op locally? Or even a LBS might have some spares hanging around.
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Originally Posted by NocoRider
I'm in the process of converting a Trek Singletrack (26" wheels). It came with a suspension fork which is trashed and really heavy. I'd like to find a rigid replacement made of good quality steel (Tange, True Temper, etc). I'd even consider carbon. Most of what I've been able to find are forks weighing 1,100 g (2.4 pounds)!!!

I've looked on eBay but since the frame is 22", all of the used forks have steerer tubes that are too short.

Recommendations anyone?
check LBS for forks - many times they will have an inventory of rigid take off forks … could get lucky and find a suitable rigid Trek fork

might need to determine crown to axle length to ensure the replacement fork provides the correct geometry (?)

have not checked out a Trek rigid fork recently - but have checked out some early 90’s Schwinn Paramount forks … the weights of the four forks I weighed were 760 to 880 g … (steerer lengths varied - 5.5 “ to 6.75 “)

some of the aftermarket aluminum and carbon forks for 26” bikes are around the same weight
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Old 01-13-24, 01:37 PM
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Lots of great bikes in here. Gonna take a while to go through all 300 pages haha
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Lots of great bikes in here. Gonna take a while to go through all 300 pages haha
Finding this thread was the beginning of my long descent into madness, so I can only say: If you think it's going to take a long time to read through it, think how long it's going to take to build yourself versions of all the bikes you like in here!
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Originally Posted by NocoRider
I'm in the process of converting a Trek Singletrack (26" wheels). It came with a suspension fork which is trashed and really heavy. I'd like to find a rigid replacement made of good quality steel (Tange, True Temper, etc). I'd even consider carbon. Most of what I've been able to find are forks weighing 1,100 g (2.4 pounds)!!!

I've looked on eBay but since the frame is 22", all of the used forks have steerer tubes that are too short.

Recommendations anyone?
Carver carbon fork, may require you to convert to threadless. What axle to crown do you need? What weight are you looking for?
I have used Carver cro-moly fork for a Hardrock.
Otherwise Soma, Surly, Origin 8, ...
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Old 01-14-24, 08:00 PM
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I was going to wait until it was done but since it just survived a house fire, I thought I'd go ahead and post it. A fireman saved my Klein!

Oh brother that's tragic news. The Klein survives though. It looks amazing.
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Just started this project
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Just started this project…
Dear lord! I can’t un-see that!!
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Originally Posted by mountaindave
Dear lord! I can’t un-see that!!
Good, let it burn into your retina
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Just started this project
Bikesnob had a Softride project a few months ago...

https://bikesnobnyc.com/2023/03/21/o...h-their-heads/
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Old 01-16-24, 01:08 PM
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Just started this project
Nice to see front and rear shifters. Please put a proper triple on that.
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Originally Posted by Sorcerer
Oh brother that's tragic news. The Klein survives though. It looks amazing.
Yeah, I got lucky. Unfortunately when I squeezed the brake it pulled but didn't release one bit, so I'm sure all the cables are cooked, and probably anything else with grease. It got pretty toasty, but somehow the tires didn't melt.
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