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Old 07-17-22, 10:22 PM
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Sorry for the lousy pics... I know what it is.... though I haven't seen one. Anyone know who it was made by?

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Originally Posted by nlerner
Ding, ding, ding! Crude but effective. It came from the first shop where I worked. When the owner decided to be done with the bike business, he let me take any tool I wanted and this is the one I chose. Guess I hadn’t heard of cold setting at that time.
Based on the amount of horking I need to do with a frame BB clamped in a vise just on one side at a time, this thing musta only worked on Firenzes.
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How about these? Anyone know what brand? Look to be bottom bracket thread taps.

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Originally Posted by uncleivan
Sorry for the lousy pics... I know what it is.... though I haven't seen one. Anyone know who it was made by?
Freewheel remover for badasses, that's for sure. Any marks on the freewheel remover itself? SunTour by chance?

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How about these? Anyone know what brand? Look to be bottom bracket thread taps.
If anything, those aren't thread taps. Thread taps at a lot deeper and don't look anything like a BB cup.

I would guess that the one with the smaller diameter non-threaded section is a guide for a BB facer, but I'm stumped by the two that are obviously designed to sit outside the BB shell edge.

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Originally Posted by clubman
What is the correct threading on the thumb screw for this model VAR 3rd hand tool.


Did this tool change much over the years?
I've got one with a knurled knob on that screw, and it has a thread pitch of 1.0mm





While a third hand doesn't seem like a complicated tool, the Var tool really works nicely and I enjoy a chance or reason to use mine.

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Old 07-18-22, 05:10 PM
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No marks on the freewheel remover... that I can see. It looks to be made to be able to change out the bits..suntour, regina, ect. Kind of like the park tool extension bar. Just dont have the other pieces. I agree, looks to be suntour. I haven't checked yet. It was in a box I picked up this past weekend. Along with the 'taps'.
The taps or whatever they are are all the same diameter the picture makes them look off. English, italian, french.
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Originally Posted by uncleivan
The taps or whatever they are are all the same diameter the picture makes them look off. English, italian, french.
Same diameter, but an obviously stepped edge on two of them. Facing guide cups have to thread in past the BB shell edge.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
If anything, those aren't thread taps. Thread taps at a lot deeper and don't look anything like a BB cup.

I would guess that the one with the smaller diameter non-threaded section is a guide for a BB facer, but I'm stumped by the two that are obviously designed to sit outside the BB shell edge.
I'd like to see a picture of the inside.

What's the history, could it be an incomplete set?

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Originally Posted by uncleivan
How about these? Anyone know what brand? Look to be bottom bracket thread taps.

Those look like pilot sleeves for a bottom bracket facing tool. You thread them into the bottom bracket shell, and they ensure that the facer itself will cut perpendicularly to the shell thread axis. Campagnolo marked theirs, so yours aren't Campagnolo.
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Originally Posted by clubman
What is the correct threading on the thumb screw for this model VAR 3rd hand tool.


Originally Posted by steelbikeguy
Did this tool change much over the years?
I've got one with a knurled knob on that screw, and it has a thread pitch of 1.0mm

Yes, it did change over time. Later production, with the black, knurled knob is M6 x 1; the ones with the brass thumbscrew were 6mm x 0.75, IIRC.
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Old 07-19-22, 06:50 AM
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Here are pics of the other sides. Having looked at them a bit more, the 'tallest' one looks like it would thread through. The top is a smaller diameter than the threads. The other two would be stopped by the bb shell.
As far as history.. not really sure. I bought a box of parts/tools/accessories. At the bottom if the box I found an envelope with the receipt for most of the contents of the box dated 1962. Some cool stuff. I will start a new thread for that.

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The Var third hand tool made me think about a tool that I made to modify another Var tool. Any guesses?


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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Those look like pilot sleeves for a bottom bracket facing tool. You thread them into the bottom bracket shell, and they ensure that the facer itself will cut perpendicularly to the shell thread axis. Campagnolo marked theirs, so yours aren't Campagnolo.
Thanks John! I didn't see your response. I don't have the rest of the tool, but will come in handy for checking threads.
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Originally Posted by uncleivan
Here are pics of the other sides. Having looked at them a bit more, the 'tallest' one looks like it would thread through. The top is a smaller diameter than the threads. The other two would be stopped by the bb shell.
As far as history.. not really sure. I bought a box of parts/tools/accessories. At the bottom if the box I found an envelope with the receipt for most of the contents of the box dated 1962. Some cool stuff. I will start a new thread for that.
The ones with the step on the shell have me stumped, unless it was a tool that centered to the BB, but didn't actually face the sides. English L/R thread, I take it?

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I assume so. I will check them in a frame.
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Originally Posted by aggiegrads
The Var third hand tool made me think about a tool that I made to modify another Var tool. Any guesses?


Since you told me awhile back about this one, I won't spill the beans. I will give a clue, however. Has to do with wheelbuilding.
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Well I sure don't know what this tool does. A friend obtained a whole lot of old tools (many badly rusted) from a long ago closed bike shop. Lots of bike tools and general purpose tools. I cannot see what this tool would do for bicycle work as it looks more like tubing bender stuff but the boxes had 3 or 4 of these so maybe. Any ideas. The two rollers turn. Both are strap aluminum and not hand made.





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Got this with a bunch of other bike stuff from an old timer cycling enthusiast neighbor who passed away. That’s why I suppose it should be a bike tool, but still couldn’t figure out what…




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Well I sure don't know what this tool does. A friend obtained a whole lot of old tools (many badly rusted) from a long ago closed bike shop. Lots of bike tools and general purpose tools. I cannot see what this tool would do for bicycle work as it looks more like tubing bender stuff but the boxes had 3 or 4 of these so maybe. Any ideas. The two rollers turn. Both are strap aluminum and not hand made.





Schwinn kickstand remover/installer.
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Got this with a bunch of other bike stuff from an old timer cycling enthusiast neighbor who passed away. That’s why I suppose it should be a bike tool, but still couldn’t figure out what…




Crank bolt remover?
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Crank bolt remover?
it’s too large to fit in the crankarm.
the small handle is fixed, the big one can pivot and is used to slide the internal cylinder in and out, inside there’s a spring to spread the jaws when they’re out.



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^ What size nut does it fit when the jaws are together?
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Schwinn kickstand remover/installer.
Thank you. I don’t see how this would work and we have a couple of kickstand removers that look entirely different - hinged two part Rube Goldberg that compresses the spring to enable safe disassembly. Can you provide any references or photos as to how our two roller thing works?
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Originally Posted by P!N20
^ What size nut does it fit when the jaws are together?
this one fits all right : could be a solid axle nut? Pics show sizes in inches, should be a metric M10

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